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Post by purr on Jan 12, 2019 18:25:44 GMT
America's friends want you to be prosperous and secure.
Said it many times before. Here in the Netherlands we get fed mostly regurgitated CNN on Dutch Media, or journalism with a Trump critical slant unless (as is practice in my fam) we record programming from CNN directly, ensuring whole Trump speeches get heard (instead of 'selected' excerpts), personally I like my intake of Trump and Pence Tweets neat so to speak, plus lately enjoying Cuomo Prime Time, Chris Cuomo always trying his hardestest to walk some miles in the opposing side's shoes, as fair/evenhanded as one can "get after it" while gainfully employed by CNN.
We've been inundated by stories of The Great American Wall already assuming mythical proportions in the sense it is well underway being built, or alternatively, as yet existing only in the president's imagination, last but not least of great enough importance (in his mind) to (partially) shut down government over it. Bit of a soap-like, even romantic quality to this narrative: his fam leaving Donald Home Alone in the Holiday Season in the big white house, nobody to take care of the little feller but the guys n gals with beautiful machine guns (and his equally faithful kitchen staff lovingly preparing his X-mas burger naturally!). In my imagination this man was making a well meant (though not so well received) show of solidarity with the American People, especially those who would be suffering due to shut down duration. What do I know?
There seem to be historical constraints on how 'nice' American politics may be played.
The Wall... From CNN's presentation we get the impression of its RIDICULOUSNESS, it is 'racist' against brown South American folk, Trump hallucinates a recreation of the Great Wall of China stretching ocean to ocean. And he'll settle for no less than "the wall" coupled with "$ 5 bln'. Imho that's fake. I listened to Trump's speech entire on the so called border crisis, and it is obvious he is open to a comprehensive approach to border security, including steel barrier type versions of his wall and meeting the needs of the CBP heroes, actually whatever it takes to secure America's southern border, AS LONG AS HE MAY CALL IT A WALL, and the dollars appropriated sound close kinda to the number five. A great win. Now to the beef (from admittedly Dutch Uncle perspective). I believe the situation at the US-Mexico border is a blight on America's reputation as a great nation of Freedom and Laws. Why exactly? Beneath the 'normal' economic emigration (with genuine refugees in the mix), the porous nature of the borders between lands of pervasive lawlessness, poverty and desperation and the (perceived) Land of Plenty have created a horrific combination of illegal immigration (includes economic migrants and honest to god asylum seekers), human smuggling (any means to cross the border illegally) and as a matter of good business: organized crime, surely with cartel involvement, offering their 'services' to all from whatever motive/need who wish to get to the US. The true crisis as I understand it is that immigration of laborers and desperate refugees alike is controlled and exploited by the most evil and cruel crime families on earth. It is these human traffickers' decency (or lack thereof) which decides if a paying customer reaches the envisioned workers paradise, finds refuge from cartel violence and political persecution, OR as a practical necessity / business decision gets forced into unpaid labor or prostitution (read: slavery) or ultimately deemed a liability to be left, throat slit, to the true desert coyotes for anonymous disposal.
Trump's Wall would in my belief work to close the door to the organized human traffickers, provided it would be part of a system of border controls, basically whatever is needed to stop illegal border crossing. That 'whatever' should be determined by the good people actually guarding these borders, who KNOW what they need to do the job.
Those should be allowed entry into America who after being vetted are granted asylum from persecution and violence, meaning no more or less than Safe Haven, the path to Citizenship with all its great freedoms and privileges opening once a set time has passed.
Ideas I'd like to throw in the mix are duh.. increasing manpower & processing capacity at US-Mexico border crossings. So folks may come and go, get to work and trade LEGALLY. More controversial thoughts (still agonized over by Europeans concerning migrants and refugees from Africa and the Middle East seeking entry at Europe's southern borders and Mediterranean ports) might be to process asylum seekers outside of US borders, with those granted conditional asylum from persecution and violence assigned a place of residence by lottery. No more shopping around for advantageous locations, say for the first 10 yrs you live, learn and work in the state you have been given REFUGE, safe haven. Only then the path to full citizenship with all its great freedoms opens. The above was addressing first the human, the humanitarian aspect to the US Mexico border crisis. Clearly, drugs don't have to be walked in, and even the best designed and patrolled southern border won't stop them being flown, shipped and freighted into America. The second almost unimaginable challenge (5 billion US$ won't begin to cover it) is to take the war to SA organized crime. Who is gonna do it, for real? Especially since at times they seem to BE the government south of the border.
By now it must be obvious I'm fairly sympathetic to Trump's Wall aspirations. Not too bad an idea at all, although I always feel he should play a bit more 'nice' about it. But that may be constrained by how tough American politics have been played since the Declaration of Indepence. I really think that becoming President of the United States is God's punishment for running. And mr. Trump ran imo on the premise he'd LOSE to 'crooked' 'Deep State candidate Hillery' allowing him to PROFIT TREMENDOUSLY (hell build some more gold-logo'd Towers!) from him being cheated out of the presidency by those rigging Democrats. This was the most surprised president elect in American history. I'm praying all US leaders be granted wisdom to find an end to the shut down. So many of America's friends want you to be prosperous and secure.
No wall can stop an international drug trade worth B-B--BBILLIONS of dollars, no need to walk them in, no need even to cross US-Mexico border. Like 'Life', drugs 'will find a way...'
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Post by moksha on Jan 12, 2019 20:40:00 GMT
Very Nice purr, Thanks for sharing, I wish I had your faith in the wall and Trump, I can only hope he has the best interest in the American TAX PAYER, but I don't, I don't like either party, I don't like where my hard earned TAX money goes, from my point of view, we lost our real Govt in 1871, and the last nail in it was in 1913.
What people get all emotional over is nothing but theater IMHO, as the actors eat from the hands of their OWNERS.
The wall serves two purposes, keep others out and the ones in, in.
I suspect the big picture of what's really going on is "slowly" showing it's ugly head. whether it has ten horns and seven heads.
I really hope your right about his true intentions, I will not be holding my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 3:56:50 GMT
excellent post purr..always a pleasure to read..
It's going to happen..lol..my post is gone but i'll say again..Home Alone is directed at the Thieves..Donals is playing with them.. There will be a physical wall..a virtual wall.. and a psychological wall helped along by massive confiscation of Cartel money and property already covered under his last executive order and soon to be former politicians.. Behind the scenes..an interesting development www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-york/articles/2019-01-04/ex-mexican-prosecutor-pleads-guilty-with-el-chapo-nearbywho just happens to be Chapos sons Godfather Veytia was just arrested in San Diego with quite a haul… 1,000 kilos of marijuana, five kilos of cocaine, one kilo of heroin and 500 grams of methamphetamine. why is this important? www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/fast-furious-obama-first-scandal/Because fast and furious connect the dots i2.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/fast-furious-obama-first-scandal.jpg?fit=788%2C460&ssl=1Now, Fast and Furious is back in the news. Earlier this month, a raid on the hidey-hole of drug kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman recovered not only the notorious drug lord, but a (“massive”) .50-caliber rifle, capable of stopping a car or shooting down a helicopter, that originated with the ATF program. Rest easy, though: Only 34 such rifles were sold through the program. The news comes just days after a federal judge rejected President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege to deny Congress access to Fast and Furious–related records it requested back in 2012 as part of an investigation into the gun-walking operation. Despite the IRS scandal, Benghazi, and a host of other accusations of malfeasance against this White House, it remains this president’s sole assertion of executive privilege. Three-and-a-half years later, the question is still: Why? Three-and-a-half years later, the question is still: Why? It was Obama and Holder that made that possible..and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why..
A very upbeat President Donald Trump calls in for an interview with Fox News host Judge Jeanine Pirro to discuss latest political events. Topics include: the immigration and border control crisis; democrat legislative intransigence; current -high priority- trade negotiations that are coming together; and the issues surrounding the last New York Times hit piece involving the DOJ and FBI.
On the issue of trade President Trump outlines his direct involvement in constructing the underlying details, that portends to very good outcomes. The economy is humming along; the “strongest economy in the world.”
Additionally, as President Trump discussing and corruption within the DOJ and FBI, President Trump seems to tease upcoming events: “You’ll be surprised at the names of people involved in the corruption”, the president said. Continuing with: “names you haven’t heard yet.”
The positive energy within this interview will send the media bananas.
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Post by ZETAR on Jan 13, 2019 8:21:51 GMT
THE TRUMPSTERS WAY OF SIG/INT "Additionally, as President Trump discussing and corruption within the DOJ and FBI, President Trump seems to tease upcoming events: “You’ll be surprised at the names of people involved in the corruption”, the president said. Continuing with: “names you haven’t heard yet.”"
"The positive energy within this interview will send the media bananas". ..AND A NUMBER OF ANAL SPHINCTERS PUCKERING!SHALOM...Z
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Post by purr on Jan 13, 2019 14:57:41 GMT
Very Nice purr, Thanks for sharing, I wish I had your faith in the wall and Trump, I can only hope he has the best interest in the American TAX PAYER, but I don't, I don't like either party, I don't like where my hard earned TAX money goes, from my point of view, we lost our real Govt in 1871, and the last nail in it was in 1913.
What people get all emotional over is nothing but theater IMHO, as the actors eat from the hands of their OWNERS.
The wall serves two purposes, keep others out and the ones in, in.
I suspect the big picture of what's really going on is "slowly" showing it's ugly head. whether it has ten horns and seven heads.
I really hope your right about his true intentions, I will not be holding my breath.
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Hi Moksha, great theater, with multiple plots moving at breakneck speed, it is! We cannot know what is in this man's heart (or any human being!), so folks kinda gamble, choose or assume to think this president is a bad guy scheming/dealing his way to ultimate power, the unlikely champion of Christian values making America great again or the "moron" (uh.. according to dismissed Secretary of State Rex Tillerson that is) wandering the White House corridors at night in a white bathrobe, one fizzy policy after another popping into his head between sips of Pepsi Light. Could be a bit of all of the above! Or perhaps we all got it wrong! Let's hope historians will have the opportunity to figure all of it out in hindsight, decades ahead.
Implied question in your post: does Trump fit some place or even centrally in the New Testament End of Times model? (Thanks, I read through the Bible quote you linked in your post.) To put not too fine a point on it, could Trump be the biblical Antichrist? As you know, the Scriptures provide us with a detailed profile of that horrific last tyrant to rule our world. Off the top of my head, AC will be a seducer of the saints, he will have a prophet of great eloquence as a voice and defender, he will require people to wear his 'mark' on their body in order to do all their banking, and his final reign will begin by sustaining a deadly coup / head wound from a 'sword', a blade weapon. At that point in time the AC becomes possessed by the ancient spiritual adversary of Christ and the Church, the Devil, hence the 'Antichrist' rules for umm.... 6(?) years total after which Jesus has had it and steps in to kick his evil bud. What do you think, Moksha? The problem here is that Obama, George W. Bush and Pope Francis all have been considered, from various political and/or theological perspectives, for the AC position. Donald Trump could just be... Donald Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 15:35:05 GMT
I am quite certain that all the theological western evangelicals and eastern orthodox are being manipulated and have been for some time to accommodate some considerable finger pointing. Putin has declared that all the Russians would go to heaven in event of final war and the rest who started it..remain in a hell of their own making that results..A nice twist on a rapture of a sorts ..They have built armed drone subs for the Pacific and Atlantic coastlines 3kft under water....that's his wall..He has no illusions who would start such a war. we know Jesus wouldn't start one so that only leaves a very small handful of candidates including the AC, who may reside in DC.. As I see it ..the current MIC corporate MSN complex singing as one and pushing the grand deception qualifies for this liberating from worldly needs event. fortunately..with trump we have a small reprieve, though running out of time for 2020..then all bets are off. What some forget is that even a Pink Flamingo event..(analogous to Black Swan) between Pakistan and India.. no love lost there would be catastrophic for Human kind..
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Post by moksha on Jan 13, 2019 17:24:27 GMT
Very Nice purr, Thanks for sharing,
Hi Moksha, great theater, with multiple plots moving at breakneck speed, it is!
To put not too fine a point on it, could Trump be the biblical Antichrist? As you know, the Scriptures provide us with a detailed profile of that horrific last tyrant to rule our world. Off the top of my head, AC will be a seducer of the saints, he will have a prophet of great eloquence as a voice and defender,
What do you think, Moksha? The problem here is that Obama, George W. Bush and Pope Francis all have been considered, from various political and/or theological perspectives, for the AC position. Donald Trump could just be... Donald Trump.
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Thanks again purr
I don't think Trump is the AC, he does not fit the description, but some one close does, I think the address is 666 5th ave, but who knows ? We are told we all will be deceived even the elect, who ever that is.
I have studied the book since being a child, and searching for the AC is one of the reasons I did
Happenstance Experiment, which was purposed with redundant principles to remove Human deception, hear is what HE #666 said.
Sadly the word "nebaioth" has no clear undisputed definition it did not help as much as I hoped, also my foot notes on this one has Enoch 67 somewhere but my copy is out on loan, but I did not find any words from Enoch in either of the grids, due to the hole thing being messed with, on purpose IMHO.
Here is a link to that word.
But if we break down that word as I like to do, N
EB AI OTH or O TH
my cypher
Death, Extra Bio, Artificial Intelligence, Thoth
This is speculation, it may be something else, or not. I would watch for LAWS = principles being enforced on Christian's only, and protection principles for the deceivers. and of course Damascus Sword.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 18:38:55 GMT
Heaven preserve us Moksha..you don't mean..no..not him....couldn't be..why just yesterday he was in a pajama parta with MBS. Shirley there must be some mistake..but his wife has a temper ..a sudden flareup he might receive a nasty head injury from one of those famous black frying pans she likes to cook with ..just sayin' But Truth be told..I believe that's from of the Deep States meme factory...The Devils workshop is never idle I'm more inclined to your other hypothesis..AI ..I would not be surprised after all the data..fed into their haystacks they rely more and more on its prognosis ..that the gog and magog are simply metaphors for google
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 19:18:19 GMT
Without Trump it would have been Hillary and the deep state, more of the past 8 Obama yrs and Obama policies, I can list them, but too depressing. At least Trump is trying to dislodge the deep state.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 19:33:00 GMT
Hang in there Gort The Wall Is coming
its not even a money problem its a willpower problem.. The Dems, of which I was one and incarnated to my present state..have boxed themselves into a math conundrum
The immigrant Influx (illegal..not the legal flow)cost up $134 Billion in 2017, even by Govt numbers. Probably $163 Billion for '18, and more for FY19 already with the caravans & Family Units. and that is for what they catch.
This is what they are defending whilst fighting the Potus but.despite the protestations
It's going up..
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Post by nyx on Jan 14, 2019 3:15:49 GMT
To build or not to build?
What would Jesus do?
Empathy anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 3:51:02 GMT
To build or not to build? What would Jesus do? Empathy anyone? Thou shalt not tempt The Lord Thy God in Vain...plus he's busy doing more imprtant things like hoping we don't meddle some more in Venuezuela with a staged coup. Then we would really have a Yuge influx of refugees..and we'd be forced to take them as we stoked the fires. Speaking of Venezuela.. hands at work..is that keanu Reeves from the matrix behind the latest opposition party leader in Venezuela?
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Post by moksha on Jan 14, 2019 10:04:03 GMT
Heaven preserve us Moksha.. was in a pajama parta with MBS. But Truth be told..I believe that's from of the Deep States meme factory...The Devils workshop is never idle I'm more inclined to your other hypothesis..AI ..I would not be surprised after all the data..fed into their haystacks they rely more and more on its prognosis ..that the gog and magog are simply metaphors for google For Embassykat, Yes AC might be a system, that Humans created, hear is a bit from one who knows way more than I do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 18:25:08 GMT
Heaven preserve us Moksha.. was in a pajama parta with MBS. But Truth be told..I believe that's from of the Deep States meme factory...The Devils workshop is never idle I'm more inclined to your other hypothesis..AI ..I would not be surprised after all the data..fed into their haystacks they rely more and more on its prognosis ..that the gog and magog are simply metaphors for google For Embassykat, Yes AC might be a system, that Humans created, hear is a bit from one who knows way more than I do.
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He is actually spot on...When you consider Google came out with a search engine that was not particularly good ..how did they get so big? Because they agreed to do what their investor INQTEL aka CIA told them to..Anything better than google would be squeezed out of the market..as the CIA sat on many boards..and controls the market at least make it inhospitable to innovation and innovators..think about that..stifling creativity..unless..they play along too..
For those in the VC community that are deep in the know- the “Deep VCs” like Peter Thiel for example, the Snowden revelations would come as no surprise. MUST READ – No Place To Hide – the story of the NSA, PRISM, and Snowden (written by Greenwald).
But for others, it may come as a surprise that not only the CIA has its own VC fund, but that it sits on many corporate boards alongside many Wall St. firms and other VCs.
And of course, they always do well.
Let’s consider the doors they opened for Google, or in the case of Google it was more like the doors that were closed. Google was not the best search engine, it was not superior technology – it wasn’t even really very good. It just became a monopoly and crushed the competition. Many wonder how they were able to do it, and that this is part of the Entrepreneur “Magic” that few have. Well we can say in the case of Google there was no Magic they had a helping hand from a friend in the deep shadows. Google wanted to become huge – the CIA wants information (they always do, so we don’t use the past tense ‘wanted’). So it was a cozy and rational partnership – in exchange for making the right handshakes at the right time, allowing Google to become a global behemoth, all they needed to do was share a little information about users. Actually, a lot of information. No harm in that, right?
But in doing so Google violated itself as well as prostituted its model and its users. Google still does this and is not nearly as flagrant as its brother Facebook, however Google shares more detailed ‘meta data’ which is actually more useful to Echelon systems like Palantir that rely on big data, not necessarily photos of what you ate for breakfast (but that can be helpful too, they say).
The metaphor is making a deal with the devil; you get what you want but it comes at a price. And that’s the price users pay to Google – they get service ‘free’ but at a huge cost, their privacy. Of course – this is all based on the concept of Freedom which really does exist in USA. You don’t have to use Google – there are many alternatives like the rising star Duck Duck Go:
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Post by swamprat on Jan 18, 2019 22:11:35 GMT
A Facebook Post
Clay Provenza
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I was a socialist. I voted for Bernie and then Hillary. I was a fervent liberal. At the time of the 2016 election, I was elected as a Texas Regional Vice President within the largest international Honors Society in the world for 2 year colleges (the name of which I won’t mention for liability reasons). I oversaw 19 community college chapters within the Houston area and regularly spoke in front of crowds of up to 700 students, faculty, and professors.
I was nominated for an award putting me in the top 100 community college students in the entire state of Texas based on leadership and GPA, making me top .0001%. Everyone I knew was liberal and anti-Trump. Professors, students, advisors, Deans, Vice-Presidents, Presidents, and Chancellors. I used to join them in ridiculing the “deplorables” along with President Trump. How stupid could someone be to vote for Trump?
I remember making speeches right before the 2016 election encouraging people to vote, and subtly hinting that Trump was the threat. I’ll never forgive myself for contributing to the poison that has infected academia, polluting the minds of our youth.
Fortunately, I’m one of the few people that I knew who were open minded enough to constantly question my beliefs. What woke me up was the blatant, propagandistic smear that the mainstream media machine churned out against Trump. I viewed what Trump said and did with an objective lens, which I began to realize NONE of the people I had surrounded myself with were willing to do. I got redpilled. HARD. And realized that Trump could cure cancer or be Jesus Christ and they would still believe he is Hitler. Once I started to distance myself, and listen to Trumps message objectively/logically, I found that I agreed with almost everything he said. I quickly realized that NONE of my colleagues were rational, NONE of them could be reasoned with, and nearly EVERY one of them began to think I went insane. The very same people who claim to be tolerant revealed themselves to be the most intolerant ones of all. Where they once applauded me for inspiration, they now ostracized me because I would dare formulate a differing opinion.
This past year, the same Honors Society decided to invite one of the producers from Hamilton to speak at the international convention. Yea, THAT Hamilton - the same one that publicly embarrassed/humiliated Vice President Pence immediately after the 2016 Trump/Pence victory. Does that sound even remotely non-partisan to any rational person with even a smidgeon of desire to view Trump objectively? Let alone STUDENTS?
Academia is a massive bubble. PhDs, especially in the social sciences, tend to have a superiority complex, where they’re so attached to their beliefs that they vehemently oppose seeing other perspectives, especially ones deemed lesser (we’re all uneducated, redneck deplorables to them). Most of them absolutely refuse to venture out of the bubble for fear of legitimizing ideologies that challenge their world-view. Our youth is being indoctrinated in a way that the Soviet Union could only dream of. 99.9% of everyone I knew is still fervent anti-Trump and I’m not sure if they’ll ever escape the tendrils of the social justice fallacy.
It utterly disgusts me how the left has entrenched itself into a near-ideological monopoly within academia, entertainment/Hollywood, the mainstream media, corporate America (as Gillette has recently showed us), professional sports, censorship by social media platforms, and more. And the sheep still refuse to see it. They refuse to see it because of virtue signaling. I have no doubt that most lefties actually believe they are doing the morally right things. But acting off of EMOTION rather than LOGIC is a dangerous precedent to set for yourself. When emotionality supersedes logic and you’re unable to differentiate between the two modes of thinking, you become IMMUNE TO REASON. You cannot debate someone operating on emotion. This is precisely why these people are for absolutely moronic/illogical things such as open borders, no due process for Justice Kavanaugh, labeling anyone who disagrees racist/misogynist/oppressive/intolerant, removing monuments of George Washington (because he owned slaves), saying minorities can’t be racist, altering SCIENCE to support genders other than male/female...the list of brainless SJW idiosyncrasies is practically infinite.
The problem is that the leftist bubble is so large, that the average person who casually flips on the news is getting spoon-fed anti-Trump propaganda and they’ll likely never know any different. They can’t see that they live inside of a bubble.
Make no mistake about it, we are at war. Western Civilization is under siege from every angle. There is a sinister, diabolical, Marxian-like plague that has infected our society and it won’t relent. It’s clear that neoliberals don’t believe in free speech, they don’t believe in free thought, and anyone who dares to disagree is destroyed (attempted) like Trump, Kavanaugh, Kanye, and anyone/everyone else who dares think differently.
I’m currently writing a book over the subject, as I feel I have an obligation to share my experience for the sake of humanity. We, fellow Patriots, are the last stand. This is the most crucial year yet for President Trump in preparing for 2020. Feel free to add me or like my Facebook page (can’t link it here, but it can be found on my profile).
Here’s to the greatest country this planet has ever known.
Clay
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