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Post by nyx on May 6, 2020 17:20:00 GMT
Pfizer vaccine is a different approach.
Inside of making antibodies, Pfizer’s vaccine attacks the RNA of the COVID-19.
So far, no side effects have shown up.
A real game changer.
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Post by mryelm on May 6, 2020 17:30:04 GMT
On Sunday’s Fox Town Hall, President Trump told the audience that now he believes it is not out of the question that 100,000 will die. Trump said the urgency right at the start was not relayed to him. It wasn't relayed to any country.... WHO down played it for China while China bought up other countries medical supplies and allowed its infected people to fly out of Wuhan around the world spreading the virus into every country, although the people of Wuhan were barred from Beijing.... That to me is very suspicious....! When I read about that coronavirus was starting up again in people who had gotten over the virus in South Korea... I turned to my husband and said it sounds a bit like Malaria..... I came upon a video yesterday that said the famous French Virologist that studied coronavirus said it has HIV and Malaria genomes in it and was man made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(edited the pic/vid for brevity, hope you don't mind luvey!) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Don’t buy any of it, leave them stuck with it all…. it will teach them a lesson for buying up the world’s supply of medical equipment as they let their people fly out of China and infect the world…. I gave a thumbs up to your reply because I too have always suspected was either a weaponized virus or was becoming weaponized and got out of the lab. The question I have is was it an intentional release or was it accidental? ~ As a nearly life long gambling man I like to give odds on anything. So my guess or odds* on the COVID-19 virus being a weaponized virus is 60% yes.
* (odds in this case are 'ballpark' percentages, i.e. not precise or actual betting odds, just a little better than a guess.)
Lastly I also have a mistrust of WHO and for that matter the UN because they seem to despise the USA. I feel the UN is less trustworthy than WHO, but that is material for another thread!.
Stay safe everyone!
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Post by HAL on May 6, 2020 20:06:15 GMT
A while back (may not even have been on this site) I wondered what the acceptable death rate in the USA would be if the intention was to 'get the country back to work' as early as possible.
Now we know. 3000 people per day.
That is from the Man himself.
Should one or more of your friends or relations turn out to be included in that number you may want to remember this come election day.
I think 'expendable' is the word we are looking at. Or maybe 'for the greater good'.
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Post by nyx on May 6, 2020 20:52:45 GMT
From a Darwin theory, weed out the weak.
From a religious view, help your neighbor.
From a practical view, I have no money and I am starving and must go back to work.
From my view, I believe viruses are not alive and are aliens from another world, and we are in a war.
There really is no answer to this question.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 21:28:36 GMT
A while back (may not even have been on this site) I wondered what the acceptable death rate in the USA would be if the intention was to 'get the country back to work' as early as possible. Now we know. 3000 people per day. That is from the Man himself. Should one or more of your friends or relations turn out to be included in that number you may want to remember this come election day. I think 'expendable' is the word we are looking at. Or maybe 'for the greater good'. HAL. Biden set it up with jr. The second China is on its way, maybe not if Trump wins. |
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Post by ZETAR on May 7, 2020 0:56:31 GMT
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Post by ZETAR on May 7, 2020 2:00:37 GMT
Belgium Accuses China Of Bio-Espionage; Biological Warfare Program And Vaccine Experts Targeted
Belgian intelligence suspects Chinese spies of targeting biological warfare and vaccine experts, according to Belgium's security service, which also believes Beijing is targeting the Belgium office of British pharmaceutical giant and vaccine manufacturer GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) as well as domestic high-tech firms, according to EU Observer.www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/belgium-accuses-china-bio-espionageThe suspicions were detailed in confidential Belgian reports dated from 2010 to 2016, seen by EUobserver.
They were meant to alert Belgian authorities to the threat of Chinese military, scientific, and medical espionage.
But the Belgian suspicions have no direct link to the current coronavirus pandemic, which started in China in December 2019 due to natural causes, according to the scientific consensus.
And the reports, which were written by Belgium's homeland security service, the Veiligheid van de Staat (VSSE), nowhere accused China of having a covert biological weapons programme. -EU Observer
China's EU mission has denied any wrongdoing, and said that they've always acted "in accordance with local laws." That said, one of the 2016 reports reads: "This area [biological warfare and vaccines] is of great interest to Chinese [intelligence] services. Both defensively, because China, due to its overpopulation, is very exposed to epidemics, as well as offensively, since it has studied Ebola as an offensive vector."
The Belgian intelligence reports used multiple human informants, while the security service also says that China wasn't the only country showing interest in the subject. Top Belgian bioweapons expert Jean-Luc Gala reportedly had a "suspicious" Russian assistant.
Former Belgian bioweapons expert and inspector for the military, Martin Zizi, told EU Observer "I was as much a target from the US, Russian, Chinese, or even African sides." The VSSE report says that Zizi was targeted by Chinese spies in 2010 when he was a science professor at the Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB).
 He was very friendly with a Chinese scientist, whom he had "introduced into the scientific and medical milieu" in Belgium, the VSSE said.
But the Chinese scientist used to be a military doctor in the Chinese army, the VSSE noted, and "she might keep too-close ties with her country in general and her former employer in particular", it added.
"She was obviously MSS," the Belgian security source told EUobserver, referring to China's Ministry of State Security (MSS). -EU Observer
Jean-Luc Gala - a retired colonel and current the head of the Centre de Technologies Moléculaires Appliquées (CTMA), a Belgian military-private joint venture that does bioweapons research - was also targeted by China when he was using mobile laboratories deployed in remote areas of Guinea testing Japanese anti-viral drug Avigan, which is now being researched as a potential coronavirus treatment.The CTMA itself was described as being "ahead of its time on the subject of bioterrorism", by the Belgian spy service.
It is located on the campus of the Université catholique de Louvain (UCL) in Louvain-la-Neuve in central Belgium.
But a few years ago, the VSSE noted that two suspicious Chinese entities had opened offices on a different floor of the same campus building that housed units of the Belgian bioweapons institute.
The first one, Beijing ZGC Science Park, folded in 2018, and had been a "non-specialised wholesale trade" company, according to its declarations in the National Bank Belgium.
The second one, Shenzhen European Office, is a branch of a Chinese regional development agency and is still operating at the same UCL address.
But one of its top people, a Chinese official, fell under suspicion because he had been "remarkably idle" in public terms for five years since arriving in Belgium, the VSSE said in a report in July 2016. -EU Observer
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 7:47:58 GMT
Project Veritas exposes CBS News COVID-19 fakery using staged patients in testing lineAs a growing number of Americans become suspicious that the Leftist mainstream media is working against President Donald Trump’s efforts to get the country reopened as the coronavirus pandemic wanes, Project Veritas provided new evidence of that in a video posted online Wednesday. In the video, James O’Keefe, the group’s founder, conducts an interview with an unknown male who claims CBS News used health care workers at a facility in Michigan to appear like they were patients lining up to be tested for COVID-19, to make it appear like more people were showing up than actually did. “You’re telling me, you’re 100 percent certain, that CBS News, CBS News Corporation, national, staged a fake event,” O’Keefe asks. “They faked the news. They faked the reality and broadcasted that to all of their audience last Friday (May 1) on ‘CBS this morning.’” “100 percent, absolutely,” the anonymous source responded in a voice that was electronically manipulated. Read more @ www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/06/project-veritas-exposes-cbs-news-covid-19-fakery-using-staged-patients-in-testing-line-917603
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 7:59:23 GMT
It wasn't relayed to any country.... WHO down played it for China while China bought up other countries medical supplies and allowed its infected people to fly out of Wuhan around the world spreading the virus into every country, although the people of Wuhan were barred from Beijing.... That to me is very suspicious....! When I read about that coronavirus was starting up again in people who had gotten over the virus in South Korea... I turned to my husband and said it sounds a bit like Malaria..... I came upon a video yesterday that said the famous French Virologist that studied coronavirus said it has HIV and Malaria genomes in it and was man made. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(edited the pic/vid for brevity, hope you don't mind luvey!) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Don’t buy any of it, leave them stuck with it all…. it will teach them a lesson for buying up the world’s supply of medical equipment as they let their people fly out of China and infect the world…. I gave a thumbs up to your reply because I too have always suspected was either a weaponized virus or was becoming weaponized and got out of the lab. The question I have is was it an intentional release or was it accidental? ~ As a nearly life long gambling man I like to give odds on anything. So my guess or odds* on the COVID-19 virus being a weaponized virus is 60% yes.
* (odds in this case are 'ballpark' percentages, i.e. not precise or actual betting odds, just a little better than a guess.)
Lastly I also have a mistrust of WHO and for that matter the UN because they seem to despise the USA. I feel the UN is less trustworthy than WHO, but that is material for another thread!.
Stay safe everyone!
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Hello mryelm.... nice to meet you.  There are trillions of dollars at stake for the elites and China.... I too believe that its entirely possible that this virus did not escape the lab, it was deliberately spread. When I read this this morning, I felt more certain it was deliberately released. Fauci conflicts with Trump, doesn't believe virus released from Chinese lab
justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/dr-fauci-says-he-doesnt-believe-virus-was-released-chinese-lab-us Of course Fauci conflicts with Trump because he gave Wuhan labs $3.7 million to work on Bat viruses after they were banned in the US….. Fauci as we now know is in league with Hillary Clinton and Tedros (WHO) that is in league with China. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 8:01:57 GMT
Social restrictions 'based on dodgy models even the experts don't follow'
Spiked online Editor Brendan O’Neill says "it increasingly looks like western societies have been shut down and have had mass unemployment ... on the basis of dodgy scaremongering models".
Imperial College epidemiologist Professor Neil Ferguson has been forced to resign from his senior role providing advice to the Boris Johnson government after he was caught flouting social distancing rules while reportedly engaging in a romantic relationship with a married woman.
"If you aren't following the guidelines yourself, if you aren't adhering to the lockdown, then it does suggest that you don't think it's necessary," Mr O'Neill told Sky News host Andrew Bolt. "And it does suggest that you are at least sceptical of it".
"What we should really be taking him to task for is his scaremongering and his (coronavirus) models".
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Post by Buster on May 7, 2020 14:53:00 GMT
She's been thrown in isolation in a jail that is infected with covid 19.
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Post by ZETAR on May 7, 2020 16:13:56 GMT
 Professor Lockdown, Neil Ferguson, Resigns Over Sex Scandal
Neil Ferguson, the historically failed computer modeler, who threw darts at a board, and launched a prediction of 500,000 COVID deaths in the UK and two million in the US, and thereby convinced both governments to opt for extreme lockdowns, has resigned his UK government post.
No word yet whether his backer, Bill Gates, who pours tens of millions of dollars a year into Ferguson’s institute at Imperial College, has turned off the money spigot.
Sex scandal: Ferguson admits he broke his own rules and the UK government’s.
blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/05/07/professor-lockdown-neil-ferguson-resigns-over-sex-scandal/
He saw his married girlfriend, Antonia Staats, during the lockdown; she traveled from her home to his, while he was still, technically, recovering after a diagnosis of COVID. Staats says she and her husband have an open marriage. She says she suspects her husband has COVID.
Ferguson issued a statement of regret, a mea culpa, on his way out the door.
In his wake, he’s left a distinct impression that: the privileged and rich live by a different set of rules, not subject to the constraints imposed on the masses; he can flout the lockdown edicts he helped create—therefore, how important can those edicts really be; the science behind lockdowns is not science at all; cheaters win, suckers lose.
If Trump, Boris Johnson, Merkel, Macron et al had a shred of sense, reason, smarts, and conscience, they would use this incident to attack Ferguson’s reputation and computer model and rip them to shreds. It’s a perfect launch pad. But no. They drone on. They enable the armies of pod people wearing masks and staying home. They support that cosmically sociopathic Howdy Doody, Bill Gates.
The Guardian is bending over backwards by running a headline about headlines: “The prurient headlines about Neil Ferguson are a huge distraction.”
Really? Does the author of the Guardian piece have a clue about Ferguson’s track record in predicting epidemics? Does he know Ferguson claimed, in 2005, for example, that 200 million people could die in the bird flu “outbreak?” Official figures eventually listed the death toll in the low hundreds.
Does the author of the Guardian piece have a clue about the false-positive-spitting PCR diagnostic test for the virus? Is he aware that doctors and hospitals are putting “COVID-19” on death certificates of 90-year olds falling off buildings and testing positive on the way down?
Does he even faintly understand what is actually involved in claiming the discovery of a new virus—and how a reliable procedure was never followed in Wuhan?
No, to all of the above. He’s stuck railing about “prurient headlines.”
Tsk, tsk, Neil Ferguson made a boo-boo.
Afraid not.
He set off a storm on nations and economies and people’s lives.
His professional colleagues, who are still praising him as a genius, are covering their own asses, because they know the career of making computer predictions is a fatuous con. They feast at a table of numbers, arranging them to suit their purposes.
To whom it may concern: when person A works for person B, and person B dumps money on person A’s head, person A is going to do person B’s bidding.
Person A is Ferguson. Person B is Bill Gates.
In what universe would Ferguson ever claim a virus, which is supposed to lead to a messianic Gates vaccine, is not dangerous at all? In no universe. That is called a conflict of interest.
No one firmly ensconced in the mainstream of medicine or science will say this out loud. No one in the mainstream will say, on this basis alone, Ferguson’s models should be rejected.
Because they’re cowards.
They should be wearing full hazmat suits pumping gas in Death Valley in the summer. Waiting for cars that never come.
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Post by nyx on May 7, 2020 18:18:57 GMT
Wednesday, Trump said he was going to ignore coronavirus guidance from the CDC all together.
Trump told a meeting that it was his way to reopen the country.
Trump is quoted saying, “I want to go back to where it was”.
Trump indicated he wants to open all as quick as possible.
I have noticed that I never seen Trump wear a mask.
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Post by swamprat on May 7, 2020 21:22:34 GMT
Too late; it's gone.
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