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Post by mryelm on Mar 30, 2020 12:36:52 GMT
New internet crazy rumor. Drinking tea makes coronavirus worse and causes a cytokine and SOX 9 protein storm. Drink water that has fluoridationChlorine and Fluoride|Water Filtration mixed with Gatorade to stop these storms. Does any of this make sense? GMT my reply to you begins with the first paragraph. I was going to paste the insert (below) below the paragraphs but ethe coffee pot is running over!
Well, that quote by Kintz used to be my mantra, but recent events are changing the fundamental way I think and that is unsettling. This is in reference to the last sentences in the second paragraph below...
It sounds like disinformation. Those chemicals are dangerous really. I am beginning to eliminate those chemicals from my life, well water is better for us than municipal water that's saturated with toxic poison's! Of course I understand not everyone has access to chemical free water. We all know that well water is not perfect because it like all natural water has pathogens, moistly bacteria and maybe even parasites! But it's fairly easy to eliminate 90% them, and moderately hard to kill or eliminate 99% of all things that could hurt us. When this C-Virus thing turned into a pandemic I was hoping a terrorist wouldn't intentionally set off a simple dirty virus bomb. Something like making a dirty bio-bomb is so obvious and easy to build, still I never mentioned it online or to others fearing some nitwit' would make it. I think now it's not worth it because a treatment and immunity type vaccine should be just a few weeks away.
THE THINGS PEOPLE DO! I have been limiting the times I go to the market. So I've been out twice in two weeks. We have Ingles, food lion, etc, but I went to WallyWord (wallmart) because they have everything from ammo and firearms (no more AR-15 tho) to bread and milk. They had plenty of most stuff but their store brand was hard to find! No bleach and not much cleaning supplies. A lot of bare shelves. I was surprised to see Tuna was sparse, only a dozen cans or so But as per the title I was looking at produce judging if it would be worth the risk when a lady about 20 meters away sneezed like a man didn't cover her mouth with anything but her hand, then wiped her nose and face with the back of that hand! No fresh produce that day! Nearly the same thing happened the next time! Don't people get it? It was a week or so later I went to another market (Ingals) hoping they would have bleach and supplies wally world didn't. (And I hoped no people that didn't know better than to sneeze without covering up!). Ok, so far so good, been shopping almost an hour with no inconsiderate people around! I was almost ready to (self) check out when a person a few isles over began coughing and snurfing'! I put a few more isles between the zombi….er person, AND I was so angry, ..strangly I was upset at myself for being so antisocial and selfish. I am still angry at myself for …...acting like I am out for #1.... and to hell with the people that were showing symptoms...…..That is not cool and I pray that is not a new me.... is it?
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A relevant link (below) I found it when researching a way to make a strong anti viral cleaner without bleach since I haven't seen a bottle of the stuff in two weeks! Oh a quickie digital using orality free pics of the C-virus~ Stay safe my friends ~
www.answers.com/Q/What_element_has_the... Fluorine and chlorine both show similar chemical behaviors because they are both in the same family, the Halogens, which are all highly reactive gases with 7 valence electrons
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Post by ZETAR on Mar 30, 2020 17:28:08 GMT
This Is Why President Trump Calls Them Fake News, CBS News Caught In A New Fake News Scandal As The Organization Uses The Footage From An Italian Hospital In Segment On New YorkThe American citizens, and the citizens of the world, are terrified of coronavirus and they do not need any more fear mongering.
But that is precisely what they got from CBS News who unashamedly aired footage of an Italian hospital during a segment about New York hospitals.
sabiareport.com/this-is-why-president-trump-calls-them-fake-news-cbs-news-caught-in-a-new-fake-news-scandal-as-the-organization-uses-the-footage-from-an-italian-hospital-in-segment-on-new-york/
The story was broken on Sunday by Jim Hoft at The Gateway Pundit but the television media has ignored it and CBS has not commented.
“CBS News painted a dire picture from New York City this week in their coronavirus coverage. On Wednesday morning CBS aired this footage from a New York hospital,” Hoft reported.
“The footage matches SKY News video from inside an Italian hospital from Sunday March 22,” he said.
It is loathsome that CBS News would show viewers, who are living in fear, a video of a situation that is far worse than what the United States is currently in.
But that is in line with the old news adage “if it bleeds it leads” meaning that gloom and doom are good for ratings.
As many on Twitter said, if they want to complain about President Donald Trump calling them fake news they should stop making fake news.
SHALOM...Z
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 30, 2020 17:54:48 GMT
Strange data from Eur MOMO!! www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/shock-report-eu-total-deaths-per-week-for-all-24-reporting-countries-combined-is-lower-than-the-normal-weekly-rate-in-every-age-group/
The EU is now reporting that the total deaths per week for all 24 reporting countries combined is LOWER than the normal weekly rate in every single age group. “Note concerning COVID-19 related mortality as part of the all-cause mortality figures reported by EuroMOMO” The EuroMOMO website publishes weekly reports of mortality levels in up to 24 European countries or regions of countries. The weekly bulletin is published every Thursday around noon. Over the past few days due to the growing number of coronavirus cases and deaths in several EU countries, the EuroMOMO reporting hub has received many questions about the weekly all-cause mortality data and the possible contribution of any COVID-19 related mortality. Investigators are asking why they are not observing increased deaths in the reported mortality figures for the COVID-19 affected countries. Via the Euromomo website: cough cough The answer is that increased mortality that may occur primarily at subnational level or within smaller focal areas, and/or concentrated within smaller age groups, may not be detectable at the national level, even more so not in the pooled analysis at European level, given the large total population denominator. Furthermore, there is always a few weeks of delay in death registration and reporting. Hence, the EuroMOMO mortality figures for the most recent weeks must be interpreted with some caution.
Therefore, although increased mortality may not be immediately observable in the EuroMOMO figures, this does not mean that increased mortality does not occur in some areas or in some age groups, including mortality related to COVID-19.
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 30, 2020 19:33:22 GMT
I am beginning to think There something really wrong with Xi
What ya carrying in the bag son?
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 30, 2020 19:48:23 GMT
Madness Kills
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/elderly-woman-dies-after-being-punched-by-32-year-old-brooklyn-woman-because-she-didnt-stay-more-than-6-feet-away-amid-coronavirus-panic/Elderly Woman Dies After Being Punched by 32-year-Old Brooklyn Woman Because She “Didn’t Stay More Than 6 Feet Away” Amid Coronavirus Panic
The New York Post reported that the elderly woman was in the emergency room awaiting treatment at a Brooklyn hospital when a fellow patient punched her in the face, knocking her to the ground. The attacker told hospital workers that she punched the elderly woman because she “didn’t stay more than 6 feet away.” The 86-year-old, Janie Marshall of Williamsburg, died of her head injury while she was waiting for results from a CT scan. The New York Post reported: An 86-year-old woman awaiting treatment for bowel blockage at a Brooklyn hospital yesterday died after being punched by a fellow patient — for not engaging in “social distancing” amid the coronavirus, law enforcement sources told The Post on Sunday. Marshall was in the emergency room at the city-run Woodhull Medical Center when she was smacked in the face by a 32-year-old patient, who was awaiting psychiatric treatment and got out of her nearby bed to launch the unprovoked attack, sources said. Marshall was knocked off her feet and cracked her head on the floor shortly after 2 p.m. Saturday, sources said. Her attacker allegedly told a Health and Hospitals Corp. police officer that she did it because Marshall “didn’t stay more than 6 feet away.” The alleged assailant was issued a summons for disorderly conduct by hospital police and left the hospital without being admitted. Meanwhile, Marshall was sent for a CT scan and was awaiting the exam when she was found slumped over in the hospital around 5:40 p.m. and pronounced dead from her head injury, sources said. According to The Post, the NYPD wasn’t notified of the attack, which was caught on video, until later Saturday night due to a crowded emergency room from the Coronavirus pandemic. The attacker reportedly has a history of mental illness and 17 prior arrests.
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Post by buzzbomb on Mar 30, 2020 20:06:15 GMT
Don't listen to this crap that this thing is blown out of proportion. This is serious and people need to pay attention to what doctors--not Trump--are telling you. If you think this disease is no big deal then YOU go catch it and tell us how non-threatening it is.
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 30, 2020 21:10:02 GMT
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Post by nyx on Mar 30, 2020 21:46:18 GMT
As Congress disappears for Easter break, Nancy Pelosi claims she will be hard at work drafting the next 2 trillion relief package.
Nancy claims this next 2 trillion will be more for families and family support, rather than for businesses.
Nancy said the first relief money in April is just a start.
My question is, what about the national debt, does it matter anymore?
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Post by thelmadonna on Mar 30, 2020 22:05:36 GMT
Hey Swamp, our news was reporting that these ships were to be used for non-coronavirus patients from the New York and LA areas. Hence no need for PPE.
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 30, 2020 22:07:16 GMT
As Congress disappears for Easter break, Nancy Pelosi claims she will be hard at work drafting the next 2 trillion relief package. Nancy claims this next 2 trillion will be more for families and family support, rather than for businesses. Nancy said the first relief money in April is just a start. My question is, what about the national debt, does it matter anymore? no
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Post by swamprat on Mar 30, 2020 22:07:18 GMT
How deadly is the new coronavirus? By Stephanie Pappas - Live Science Contributor an hour ago
The numbers are in flux, but appear worse than the seasonal flu.
The death rate from the novel coronavirus that causes the COVID-19 disease varies by location, age of person infected and the presence of underlying health conditions.
While most people who catch the new coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 recover at home, some may need hospitalization to fight the virus. And in a number of patients, COVID-19 is deadly.
Scientists can't yet say for sure what the fatality rate of the coronavirus is, because they're not certain how many people have become infected with the disease. But they do have some estimates, and there is a widespread consensus that COVID-19 is most dangerous for elderly patients and those with preexisting health burdens.
On March 5, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization, said during a news conference that about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 patients around the world have died. In a Chinese analysis of more than 72,000 case records, 2.3% of those confirmed or suspected (based on symptoms and exposure) to have the virus died. Patients above 80 years of age had an alarmingly high fatality rate of 14.8%. Patients ages 70 to 79 years had a fatality rate of 8% and those ages 60 to 69 had a fatality rate of 3.6%. (Younger age groups had lower fatality rates; 1.3% for those 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39.) In Italy, which has a high proportion of residents over age 65, the fatality rate is strikingly high, around 10% as of March 25.
A recent study of COVID-19 cases in the United States estimated a mortality rate of 10% to 27% for those ages 85 and over, 3% to 11% for those ages 65 to 84, 1% to 3% for those ages 55 to 64 and less than 1% for those ages 20 to 54.
These numbers shouldn't be taken as the inevitable toll of the virus, however. The case-fatality rate is determined by dividing the number of deaths by the total number of cases. Epidemiologists believe the total number of infections with SARS-CoV-2 is underestimated because people with few or mild symptoms may never see a doctor. As testing expands and scientists begin using retrospective methods to study who has antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 circulating in their bloodstreams, the total number of confirmed cases will go up and the ratio of deaths to infections will likely drop.
For example, in South Korea, which conducted more than 140,000 tests for COVID-19, officials found a fatality rate of 0.6%.
However, complicating the matter, mortality numbers lag behind infection numbers simply because it takes days to weeks for severely ill people to die of COVID-19. Thus, current death rates should properly be divided by the number of known infections from the previous week or two, researchers wrote in February in Swiss Medical Weekly.
A report published March 13 in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases adjusted for this "time delay" between hospitalization and death. The authors estimated that, as of Feb. 11, the death rate from COVID-19 was as high as 12% in Wuhan, 4% in Hubei Province and 0.9% in the rest of China.
Another factor affecting the deadliness of the new coronavirus is the quality of medical care. Already, there is evidence that the overwhelmed medical system in Wuhan, where the outbreak began, led to more deaths. The World Health Organization's joint mission report from Feb. 28 found that among 56,000 laboratory-confirmed coronavirus cases, the case-fatality ratio was 3.8%. However, the case-fatality ratio in Wuhan was 5.8%, while the rest of the country — spared the overwhelming bulk of sick patients — saw a rate of 0.7%.
This means fewer people are likely to die if the medical system is prepared to face an influx of coronavirus patients.
Indeed, in the Emerging Infectious Diseases report, the authors said that the high death rate estimates for Wuhan "are probably associated with a breakdown of the healthcare system," which was overwhelmed with cases. The findings indicate that "enhanced public health interventions, including social distancing and movement restrictions, should be implemented to bring the COVID-19 epidemic under control," the authors said.
As the virus has spread into different parts of the world, new data has emerged. The Diamond Princess cruise ship provided a look at an isolated, well-observed population exposed to the new coronavirus. On that cruise ship, 707 people caught the virus and six died, for a case-fatality ratio of 0.8. It takes about six weeks to determine whether someone with COVID-19 will recover or succumb, so the number of deaths from the cruise ship outbreak could still rise. The current ratio tops the seasonal flu case-fatality ratio in the United States of 0.1%, but it is dwarfed by the 10% case-fatality ratio of SARS, another coronavirus that emerged in China in 2002.
However, the Diamond Princess numbers may not be representative of what happens in the rest of the world. Cruise ship passengers skew older than the general population, putting them at risk of more serious complications. On the other hand, because the outbreak on the ship was closely watched, patients had access to quick medical care.
www.livescience.com/is-coronavirus-deadly.html
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 30, 2020 22:10:45 GMT
Things balance out..crime dips during sheltering..deaths from other flus decrease as people distance themselves..births rates increase after sheltering from boredom This will not make bill gates happy..perhaps they did not think of this..
also..
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Post by plutronus on Mar 31, 2020 0:27:20 GMT
Thanks for your support plutronus. I have learned over the years to thank people and not wait! lol Or withhold. I grew up and spend my younger days in a hard world, many of those years was an officer in a very large MC club. BTW, 90% the stuff on the tube about the largest MC's* are lies. *(MC now - Motorcycle Corporation! Calling a large club a gang is bad street etiquette!) I digress! In any case thanks again for the heads up! ; }> Mr Yelm,
Great story!
While I ws never a member of any official 'club', I did ride a motorcycle every day of my life for 30 years, sunny, rain, snow or tornado, it was all good, well, most of it. Heavy rain is a sloppy drag, especially the 'fan-tail'. My dear mother was a motorcyclist back when it was popular to be a member of clubs, her's was the AMA. Her favorite motorcycle was the vaunted 'Indian Chief', mainly due to its extremely low center-of-gravity and its power, while her second favorite was a Harley 74. I've a great photo of her standing next to and holding the prop of her high-wing airplane the day she earned her 'wings', in the foreground is her Harley.
For my 13th birthday, Mom presented me with a Harley-Davidson 'Sportster Junior', a custom scaled down Harley-Davidson motorcycle. She offered a few points of advice:
1) RE; whether or not to wear a helmet, she said, "50% of the time a helmet prevents one from scrambling their brains on the pavement, and the other 50% of the time, because they are so heavy, they break the rider's neck while ejecting off the bike".
2) "A motorcycle is most dangerous when the rider begins to feel as though is a part of the motorcycle"
3) "Its always best to skid on someone else's skin", so always leather, and good boots.
4) "Remember, to come home once in awhile!"
That first week was when I first understood the value of money, as I jumped on the bike and I took off. I rode it all the way to Albuquerque New Mexico. I was just coming up over the hill when the motor started to sputter, eventually stalling as the tank was empty. I pushed it the last ten miles into a 'Dairy Queen town'. One of those little oasis on the long desert highway, a gas station on one side of the road and a Dairy Queen on the other side, 'town'. I pushed it into the gas station and realized that all I had in my pocket was a dime. Back in that ear gasoline was around 17¢ a gallon. In that gas station, I learned the fine art of begging for gas! Eventually the gas station owner took pity on me for my begging and had me do a few chores for him, for which he filled my tank, and gave me a buck to boot! Man, I was flying high! My first job, a full tank of gas and a burger to boot!
Yep, motorcycling is one of those things which brings to mind many fine memories and it warms my heart.
plutronus
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Post by mryelm on Mar 31, 2020 1:54:00 GMT
plutronus, it seems we both have had some time in the saddle. Your mon was wise too! When I wrecked I broke both femurs one a compound , my tibia and fibula and various other things like a ruptured spleen, anyway my neck was fractured but the cheap helmets chin strap snapped. The orthopod said my hairline fracture in my neck was where a hanging fractured the vertebra! I would bet if that strap didn't break my neck would gave fractured completely! Thanks for sharing, and you are correct the memories and those to come make me smile too!
ZETAR, I'm with you. We need information not hype and dirty laundry ! I don't know how the hell network 'news' stays in business. It is way past time to boycott their advertiser. They are worse than traitors and treasonous vermin. Those guys and some dems would bring down this entire nation if they could get trump in the process.
Dirty Laundry OWED TO THE FAKE NEWS RATS
Don-henley
I make my living off the Evening News Just give me somethin', somethin' I can use People love it when you lose, they love dirty laundry
Well, I could've been an actor but I wound up here I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em all around
We got the bubble headed bleach blonde who comes on at five She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye It's interesting when people die, give us dirty laundry
Can we film the operation? Is the head dead yet? You know the boys in the newsroom got a running bet Get the widow on the set! We need dirty laundry
You don't really need to find out what's goin' on You don't really want to know just how far it's gone Just leave well enough alone, eat your dirty laundry
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're stiff, kick 'em all around
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're stiff, kick 'em all around
Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie We love to cut you down to size, we love dirty laundry
We can do "The Innuendo," we can dance and sing When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing We all know that crap is king, give us dirty laundry
Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down
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Post by SysConfig on Mar 31, 2020 7:46:15 GMT
While you still can...You know the drill
Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C. Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then readministered three or four times a day, he said. Each dose is more than 16 times the National Institutes of Health’s daily recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C, which is just 90 milligrams for adult men and 75 milligrams for adult women. The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said. “The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C,” he said. “It helps a tremendous amount, but it is not highlighted because it’s not a sexy drug.” (source)
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