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Post by nyx on Apr 20, 2018 2:20:30 GMT
Are you afraid that you will be naked in public?
Are you afraid that you will get lost?
Are you afraid some one will die?
Are you afraid you are in serious danger?
If you dream these things, are you afraid of your dreams?
I have a Cherokee Indian dream catcher on my bed to try to catch my bad dreams.
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Post by purr on Apr 20, 2018 20:39:36 GMT
Are you afraid that you will be naked in public? Are you afraid that you will get lost? Are you afraid some one will die? Are you afraid you are in serious danger? If you dream these things, are you afraid of your dreams? I have a Cherokee Indian dream catcher on my bed to try to catch my bad dreams. No, no, no, no and no, although there might've been some yesses in there if you caught me at a (much) earlier age with above questions, Nyx ! I too have such a dreamcatcher overhead, originally purchased from a Native American maker. I think adding elements of white 'sleep-magic' contribute to healthy and positive sleep. Interior of our living space was created according to Feng Shui principles decades ago, another spirit tech gently directing minds, including our dream minds and relationships with the sleep dimension into a positive, benevolent direction. In my belief. I think we should respect and appreciate our dreams, and try to remember and understand them, yet not be controlled by them, especially not toward being fearful of ominous portents. If a dream includes apparently bad stuff, one could take it as a welcome warning and for instance avoid future danger or break off with a concealed enemy. Also, lots of the potentially disconcerting dream content, like about dying and death and monsters chasing us imo can be interpreted in a highly positive way, stuff to learn from, with regard to oneself and our true connection to dream worlds. purr
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Post by HAL on Apr 22, 2018 19:38:22 GMT
Purr,
But what if your dream has dark and sinister content yet you find yourself enjoying it ?
HAL
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Post by purr on Apr 25, 2018 13:16:24 GMT
Purr, But what if your dream has dark and sinister content yet you find yourself enjoying it ? HAL DON'T GO OVER TO THE DARK SIDE, HAL... My personal answer (with how I dream in mind) would be: I'd worry what's wrong with me and self correct by self programming my dreams to be light and benevolent, and to the extent dark and sinister content yet may persist to be observant and wary of same during the dream. Much like I'd be observant and wary of bad actors crossing my path in daily (waking) life! By the way, I suppose much "dark and sinister" stuff in dreams and life is relatively harmless, just an information format (to be used / discarded as needed). But then, if you'd enjoy it, why call it dark and sinister at all. Why not call it: enjoyable? On the other hand, if you did recognize content as DARK/SINISTER, remarking on 'enjoying' it, haven't you already red-stamped that content as POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS and the positive emotional response as PROBABLY INCONGRUOUS. Outcome of which calculus comes to you formulating the correct answer to your own question. purr
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Post by HAL on Apr 25, 2018 21:02:17 GMT
Purr,
..DON'T GO OVER TO THE DARK SIDE, HAL...
I can't any more. The background brain noise won't let me.
Possibly the correct approach is not to eat blue cheese before going to bed.
While we are on about dreams. Why is it that people under anesthetic or those who faint do not dream ?
In other words, what is the difference between being asleep and being unconscious ?
HAL
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Post by purr on Apr 26, 2018 21:01:18 GMT
Purr, ..DON'T GO OVER TO THE DARK SIDE, HAL... I can't any more. The background brain noise won't let me. Possibly the correct approach is not to eat blue cheese before going to bed. While we are on about dreams. Why is it that people under anesthetic or those who faint do not dream ? In other words, what is the difference between being asleep and being unconscious ? HAL Ha, my fav blue is Costello Blue (does seem a bit on the heavy side for a late night snack!), HAL. To your question, I'm only well read up on sleep and dreaming, not on anesthesia, but the off the top of my head answer would be that unconsciousness is a deeper state than sleep: sleepers can be wakened (calling / shaking them), unconscious people cannot. I'm guessing that the mix of anesthetics putting you under does not allow for REM sleep, the dream phase. purr
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Post by HAL on Apr 26, 2018 21:20:54 GMT
Purr,
..Ha, my fav blue is Costello Blue (does seem a bit on the heavy side for a late night snack!), HAL..
AKA 'Danablu'. Also my favorite.
You could be right about the anesthetics.
Just thinking of that blue cheese has made me want to go down stairs and raid the fridge. Why not, I don't go to bed until around 2-3 AM.
I was going to say 'see you in my dreams', but if I do you will possibly be chasing me through Hell wielding a battle axe.
Little Nemo rubbed his eyes and got out of bed, trying hard to piece together a broken dream. His visions lifelike and full of imagination it's strange to think they came from such a tiny head. Dragons breathing fire, but friendly. Mushrooms tall as houses. Giant Nymphs and goblins playing, scenes from a night's dream, poor Little Nemo! Eating all kinds of food so close to bedtime they always made him have these nightmares, it seemed
It's from Genesis (the group, not the book). For more Google 'poor little Nimo'.
HAL
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Post by nyx on Apr 27, 2018 3:06:59 GMT
I wonder why the brain can give you a nightmare every so often to make one reluctant to sleep?
I seems your brain would only want friendly dreams only?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 5:02:19 GMT
Nyx ....Great Topic! I'm glad You are on Top of this and way ahead of the nice curves posted by Purr In FACT my friend..! It's going to take Balls of Steel to bring your dreams under control..You can't grow these sadly..I've always had them but never felt a genuine need to use them until now....and I'll give you a heads up.. none of those passive devices like dream catchers (a culturally misappropriated item by the fork tongued anglo saxon invaders ) ever worked except in Stephen King's novels.....Now..We can thank Thomas Edison leading the way.. motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywxjvg/steel-ball-control-dreams-dormio-mit-hypnagogia
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Post by purr on Apr 27, 2018 5:55:19 GMT
By Edison's Balls..!! Ya'all nailed it, positive dream control now within our reach! First: (thank you HAL) lay off those delectable BLUE CHEESES (there really is something smelly coming out of Denmark) before entering sleep. If you wish to avoid dark dreams. Otherwise, enjoy! Then enter your dreams handling Thomas Edison's steel balls (or if and when available MIT master's student Adam Horowitz hypnotically primed electrical glove) (somehow this didn't come out right, never mind) ( both are experimental/invented devices for dream exploration), and when you wake up immediately report your dream experiences. Answer to Nyx, why the brain sometimes produces nightmares. I think: to wake you up during an illnes / physical threat level where the body will benefit more from activity (like wandering through ones home at night looking for cheese left overs) than from remaining in prone position. Of course, not all our nightmares originate from the brain, some are more out of this world. Imo. Sys, might I suggest here you're on a roll Sir... purr
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 9:26:48 GMT
You and Nyx have been invaluable to me in too many ways to list here. The method described is so beautifully elegant in its simplicity and available to all..like not driving to work and instead walking..you catch so many many things you miss..useful things..This will take a little practice..I think the efforts will be worth it.. Steel balls are just the thing..you don't even have to squeeze them, just hold them gently until you drift off! Rubber balls, Ping Pong Balls, Meat Balls will never do it, unless you have exceptional hearing, but if those curious have a set of Brass Balls, that should work just fine too. But imagine trying to ride an elevator from the top floor down to the floor where there is a smashing party..and you keep missing it.. over and over..just stuck in the basement every time then reawakening on the top floor again..that's our life now! Missing the best party on earth your mind can find itself in...and all it took was a little trick like this..to help you get there.. I need say no more...
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Post by nyx on Apr 27, 2018 22:19:23 GMT
You are right purr, some nightmares are from out of this world.
If you want to go down the "rabbit hole", my wife and I had a similar dream which seemed a little strange.
On a very rare occasion, it seemed our dream foretold something that was going to happen.
Were we transmitting our thoughts to each other?
Is there a ESP between partners?
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Post by purr on May 1, 2018 13:41:33 GMT
You are right purr, some nightmares are from out of this world. If you want to go down the "rabbit hole", my wife and I had a similar dream which seemed a little strange. On a very rare occasion, it seemed our dream foretold something that was going to happen. Were we transmitting our thoughts to each other? Is there a ESP between partners? Nyx, I believe there are many rabbit holes. That's why imo we should mindfully select which of the dream doors offered to enter, as we fall asleep. And of course yes, there is often a psychic connection with the folks we care for / share our lives with.. purr
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