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Post by purr on Nov 5, 2023 18:30:30 GMT
LOOKING THE OTHER WAY The attack by Hamas terrorists on kibbutz Kfar Aza(link), just one of several intricately coordinated incursions into Israel left me as stunned and incredulous as everybody else, but even more stunning is how the absolute majority of the mainstream media, CNN included, fell over themselves ensuring 'context' and 'balance' for Hamas' evil actions against Israeli civilians. The only rebalance thinkable for descending on a sleeping, lightly defended Jewish community full of families with young children would be to assert/show this was a false claim, Israeli propaganda. Hamas skipped the opportunity, instead proudly posting their fighters' bodycam footage online as evidence of their military success. On that 7th October some 70 Hamas militants had their own sweet way with the 400 kibbutz inhabitants for two days on end, succeeding not only in taking a number of hostages back to Gaza territory, but massacring, shooting, burning alive, allegedly beheading residents, families including a baby or babies and by all appearances feeling rather good about themselves afterward. In my book if a soldier kills a child during a war, they'll feel like shit ten times over about it. The worst. Now if you're doing a victory dance, that imho is the manifestation of Evil. But by now, everywhere I look, also on Dutch news media, there's these talking heads, experts on Palestinian history as well as Palestinian refugees (God bless them, these people haven't had it easy on the West Bank or right now ordinary Gazans and their families trying to survive the raging onslaught of IDF F-16s pounding on any and all Hamas militant positions in mainly northern Gaza) who seem to offer "context" to the world media and public to look away from the nature of these Hamas attacks. No context exists for deliberately murdering entire families with their children however except for the holocaust of WWII. It is pure evil. 1948 That said, shortly after the conclusion of WWII the remnant of Jews in and outside British Palestine were given a homeland, borders/territory yet to be determined, by the United Nations, a big win for the Zionist movement who had been fighting hard and lobbying smart for an Israeli state for decades. According to the contended account, the Jewish leadership deployed militia units, two names are mentioned, the extremist Irgun and more like regular military Haganah were sent in to 'clear' the Arab villages (presumably: of Arabs), mainly in the West Bank and Gaza, and this they did against the backdrop of a war defending against a coalition of neighboring countries. The newborn State of Israel prevailed, and when the dust cleared at least one village named Dayr Yassin had had its Arab population removed by Jewish militia. Dayr Yassin had not been a hotbed of anti-Jewish militancy, at most lightly defended, and there are both Arab-Palestinian inhabitants AND Jewish Irgun or Haganah fighters who gave first hand witness to the use of force, the killing of civilians as well as the appearance of a rational policy intending to 'remove', 'clear' this and possibly other villages of their respective Arab populace. Coming in to the history with an open mind, with only superficial knowledge on my part of the Middle East, the Palestinian narrative adds a long list of villages that underwent the fate of Dayr Yassin. Off the top of my head (excuse spelling errors!) Ayl Ghazal, Karatiyya, Qastal, Dayr Cabal as well as Arab neighborhoods in the towns of Haifa and Jaffa. The claim exceeds 60 Palestinian/Arab villages getting 'ethnically cleansed' in all. I could not corroborate all of the alleged events, so allowing for exaggeration: even if just a handful of Arab villages were the target of forced removal with 'merely' dozens of innocent civilians killed by Irgun fighters, Jewish militia still would have screwed the pooch bigtime. Could be warcrimes. If true, even in part, this too would be an evil act, purportedly committed as of the State of Israel got underway. apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-attack-military-war-a8f63b07641212f0de61861844e5e71e Like I said. I do not understand this subject well enough to do a political analysis. These are just my thoughts on the October 7 Hamas atrocities and the MSM response the past month or so. This is what I think, evil does not cancel out evil. One cannot avenge oneself out of injustice, unless by spilling an eternity of blood. Right now, I unreservedly stand with Israel and the good folks of that young democracy. They must have the right to defend themselves against Hamas, if the rocketing and incursions continue Israelis couldn't live there, no self respecting government would stand for this. I also wish for the civilian population of Gaza and the West Bank that they get to live in peace, get a fair shake. At some point there should come into being a sovereign Palestinian State. But first the Israel Defense Force cannot but get rid of the Hamas butchers. What to do in the name of heaven with terrorists who hold 200+ hostages and use their own civilian population as human shields? I pray that God will give PM Netanyahu and the Israeli military wisdom and strength to resolve this strategic conundrum. It deeply saddens me to realize that just to destroy the extensive tunnelling under Gaza, the Israeli air force plus ground forces will inevitably cause massive suffering and death of innocent Gazan civilians. War is hell on earth. purr |
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Post by purr on Nov 12, 2023 19:37:11 GMT
Excerpts from Shin Bet (Israeli Internal Security Service) interrogation of terrorists captured in the October 7 attacks.
Gaurav Sawant of India Today is one of a group of international journalists invited by the Israeli government to view raw footage shot during and immediately after the Hamas incursion, as well as go 'boots on the ground' in the Jewish communities shown. THE DAY AFTER HAMAS It's November 11 already, I'm at my keyboard again feeling as if the 7th of October 2023 happened just yesterday, but of course in real time this has been a month where the history of the State of Israel and the Jewish People changed course, for now veering away from the Israeli Dream, Israeli Way of Life, a beautiful dream of a place where deserts were made to bloom, of amazing cities like vibrantly secular Tel Aviv and mysterious Jerusalem, ancient City of King David, considered holy and treasured by Jews, Muslims and Christians alike. Lost from sight too are that democratic society's intensely felt differences on Netanyahu's proposed constitutional changes that would curb judicial powers, threatening to set back civil rights, and a whole lot of inward looking, self criticism and political fighting among themselves, which is healthy for a modern democracy. (I'm not sure if the October 7 attacks changed something for the Peace Now movement, but I suspect it should, conceivably to relabel themselves Maybe Peace Later?) Instead of the dream there is imo a mental reset for Jews in Israel and everywhere, back to before 1948, before they came into their own state, the times of the holocaust, pogroms and being targets for anti-semitism while living among strangers in strange lands for millennia. A horrific idea that to me suggests that Hamas' bloody rampage may have been designed as Psy Ops aimed at taking away Israelis' sense of security plus provoking the most extreme response imaginable from a technologically superior, even nuclear armed Israel Defense Force. As if from their luxury suites in Qatar the Hamas leadership wished to prod Israel into turning Gaza into a glorious martyrs' graveyard. But starting from my own perspective, citizen of a safe, peaceful, almost too nice The Netherlands, I needed this past month to get to grips with the most basic of questions: what really happened? Is this a real event? Chopping babies' heads off, seriously? I'm looking for signs of exaggeration, propaganda and playing politics. I want to be super careful, because I was not there, having to depend on news reports and snippets of edited/blurred film footage. Is this horror actually true? Now I've looked at news reports from the US, al Jazeera, Israel itself, Australia and the Dutch media, as well as endless YouTube vids listed when you google "Hamas 7 October attack", viewing all hours, at times praying, feeling deeply moved or being skeptical / questioning the reality of what I saw. I embedded only three of those videos in this post, because they helped me get the greatest sense of clarity on what really transpired last month. HOW TO MAKE THE NAZIS LOOK GOOD The craziest, most unthinkable is of course the claim of beheaded babies. Who does that? Far as I know even the Nazis, who were hardly shy about killing, shooting, hanging, gassing, starving and working to death entire families of the hated race, their children included, seemed to draw the line at beheading Jewish babies. Perhaps deemed uncivil behavior beneath a 'Herrenvolk' (German Gentlemen). By tonight I can put together a picture of the various reported actions of Hamas fighters. You may come across this yourself, if you have the time to view the selected videos: I was helped by the differences between journalists in description of the same events (shown in the screening for the international press) like the murder+possible kidnapping of a father and his two young sons at Be'eri Kibbutz. A group of Hamas fighters moving house to house, firing automatic rifles at any resident in sight, spots a father fleeing with his two boys into the safe room. Before he can close the door a fighter catches up with him and tosses a grenade into the room. The father dies shielding his sons from the blast, yet the youngest boy is blinded by shrapnel. Terrorism is thirsty work, so the Hamas guy walks in and right in front of the shocked and devastated young boys opens the fridge and takes a refreshing swig of Coca-Cola from the bottle. The two boys who are about to be taken hostage or worse then have a short conversation, the younger brother who was blinded asking about their dad who just passed, the older one, maybe a 12 yr old then asking "why am I alive?'. Even from this limited, indirect exposure to the story I am feeling shocked, and I fear many of the journalists who had to view this material will be strongly affected, requiring some form of psychological counseling in the days to come. "Why am I alive" is not a kid's question. Kids should be happy and safe. The X-factor making it real to me is how journalists from different cultures did not merely report the older brother's words, but seemed compelled by a depth of anguish incongruent with the speaker's young age to give additional interpretation, a deeper meaning to the question asked. The Italian journalist hears the boy asking 'why am I not dead', wishing for death. The commentator from India thinks the boy experiences with the loss his father that of all meaning and purpose. I notice that all the journalists who either walk in the destroyed kibbutzim, looked into the blood spattered homes, seen and smelt body bags and corpses and watched the raw/unedited footage of the Hamas attacks are powerfully affected as you would expect from a real event involving the cruel, depraved slaughter of innocent men, women and children. Israeli citizens fell victim to Hamas terror operations involving indiscriminate firing on residents, families, their children, the elderly and dogs in their home, asleep, at breakfast or driving a car. To overcome people taking shelter in safe rooms they shot through windows and doors, threw in handgrenades, set individuals and whole families tied together on fire, burning many victims alive in their own homes. They cut off a boy's fingers, also a little girls right leg in front of their parents. One father's eyes are gauged out. A mother's breasts are cut off. Many of the male corpses are found beheaded, often the head taken back to Gaza as evidence of number of Jews killed. Hamas offers rewards for both proven kills (by body cams, GoPro and nr of heads taken) and hostages brought into Gaza. From watching all the video I could find and had time for I conclude dozens of children, ages ranging from infant to teen, were injured, abducted or killed during the attack. I find it likely that several babies were found with their heads severed. I believe, based on the witness accounts, that at least one baby was found with his/her head severed. It would be consistent with the Hamas fighters' 7 October practice of beheading adult males, to reasonably assume they also beheaded some of the babies. YANKING ISRAEL'S CHAIN HARD or WOULD YOU LIKE A GAME OF CHESS? How do the above behaviors morally qualify the Hamas fighting forces (and its leadership)? Just writing down tonight what they really seem to have done has been emotionally draining for me. I feel exhausted as if the life is taken out of me. I might repeat, now with confidence in these events' historical reality, it is pure evil. Evil accurately describes the atrocities committed by individual Hamas, how they operated as groups as well as applied to the mission as a whole. This was strategically planned as the organized slaughter of multiple Kibbutzim populations, designed to engender a maximum psychological effect, as well as naturally ensuing military and political responses. This inevitably means Hamas has a game in mind for Israel to play and it stands to reason that Israel must be levelheaded enough not to play it. I ask myself: what would I do if someone went round beheading our family's babies? May God give the People of Israel strength... ..to do what is right...
...and to be good at what they do...purr
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Post by purr on Nov 15, 2023 8:57:06 GMT
HAMAS AND THE BABIES OF ISRAEL In previous posts I wished the Israelis the levelheadedness they are going to need to formulate a strategic response to Hamas' unprecedented terror campaign unleashed at their Kibbutzim residents. There's a problem with that: the report/story/rumor going viral globally that Hamas had decapitated Israeli babies (one or two? 19? 40? all?) on its horrific rampage through several Jewish communities. If indeed after forensic examination we find that the 7 October terrorists were systematically beheading Jewish babies, I fear that Hamas savagery will have pushed across the last threshold in Israeli perception separating (depraved/indoctrinated) fellow humans from Manifested Evil requiring total and immediate eradication. Sifting through all the news reports, YouTube videos and witness descriptions I could find (limited by my time, energy and the interplay of search term and Google algorithms) I already noted a lack of confirmation for the more outlandish claims citing dozens, even 40 babies supposedly 'beheaded'. Check out the 2 YTubes over this post. As I write, the Israeli authorities so far failed to confirm the story. Neither have I found a first hand witness of 'beheaded babies' ( plural) or hearsay directly quoting such first hand witness, let alone a witness to a Hamas terrorist in the act of decapitating a baby. You may listen to the one unequivocal witness statement, heard at the very beginning of the second video (Daily Mail) in this post. The IDF Commander charged with Rescue & Recovery in Be'eri Kibbutz standing in front of the blackened soot covered ruins of a family home, where his unit recovered multiple human remains, including several babies, clearly states: "I saw a baby, beheaded.". Apart from this, at the same Kibbutz, another soldier possibly referring to the same atrocity was recorded by news agency i24 as saying, in an ungrammatical and imprecise manner "...they cut the babies' head...". Neither soldier claims to have witnessed a Hamas decapitating a baby or babies. The i24 quote is not clear on whether the babies had received a cut in the neck, to the head, or had been decapitated, if the soldier meant 'babies' as plural (2 or more) or generic (concerns age group x), or if he saw the baby with his own eyes or merely was repeating what he heard from other soldiers. That leaves us the one description from the IDF Commander in the Daily Mail video, tasked with locating/recovery of the Be'eri murder victims, who saw one baby whose head had been severed. From his words it is not clear if this was due to an intentional act of decapitation or resulting from a bullet or explosive munitions. No Medical Examiner's or any official finding confirms that Hamas deliberately cut off the head of babies or a baby at this point in time. We might yet find out they did chop infants' heads off, who knows with these psychopaths? Perhaps a small mercy that for now 'Bibi' and his battle hardened IDF generals needed not factor in this additional mother of all horrors, as they planned and put in motion the air and ground assault on Hamas forces and infrastructure (with deeply tragic results on Gaza civilians). But as reported, Hamas' opening move was taking out the military command posts and any police station capable of sending first responders when the music festival and Kibbutzim came under attack and called for help. Then with the opposing force out of the way, the Hamas Nuhkba elite units, along with some 1500 Gazans from all walks of life, male, female whatever went on the Israel Terror Tour, hunting for Jews, killing men (collecting indeed heads for reward money), abducting as many women and children possible as hostages ($10,000 plus an "apartment" per Gaza hostage!), going after families (who died in numbers, children/infants and all), basically shooting at everything that moved and the family dog, raping, stabbing, destroying with grenades and fuel bombs, burning the dead and the living, parents individually or bound together with their children, limbs were chopped off, babies too were found killed and BURNED, teenager or pregnant or an elderly holocaust survivor, Thai, American, British, German or Dutch nationals no matter. Everyone and anyone was fair game as long as Hamas could take, maim or kill. The October 7 terrorists did not care (although they liked the promised reward money), they killed in ancient rage and bloodlust. All the world on that day became astonished witnesses to a Pogrom in modern Israel. And now we can expect to see that Torah and Family loving People's fitting response. purr ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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Post by maxxhazzard on Nov 16, 2023 9:35:53 GMT
thank you for your post
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Post by purr on Dec 5, 2023 1:18:24 GMT
...And now we begin.... You are welcome Maxxhazzard!  At the risk of making this thread another analysis of this horrific war after all, I've been wrecking my brain for a way toward peace between the two warring parties and peoples. I'm asking WHY is Hamas sending out its 'elite' units along with a mob of 'ordinary' Gazans who burst out of containment and rush at the kibbutzim communities behaving like bloodthirsty psychopaths. Or worse, like the flesh eating armies from the zombie flick World War Z. (Awesome movie with Brad Pitt, and as it happens several big action scenes shot in Israel and Jerusalem). October 7 was like the gates of hell opening and demons walking the earth. WHAT DRIVES THE HAMAS / GAZAN TERROR? Like shown in opening post, the Palestinian narrative tends to go back to 1948, year of the so called Nakhba, the Catastrophe, referring to the forced expulsion of the Palestinian people from their ancestral villages and lands, Israeli refusal to let them return home at which point their suffering as refugees began. Studying the history, and like I said do check out the documentary 1948 in OP, I come to an understanding such an event did take place, yet on a much smaller scale than proponents claim and with a major role played by a coalition of armies, including Arab forces, attacking the emerging Jewish state that same year. Simply, a great many Arab/Palestinian communities voluntarily made way for their military kinsman to destroy the Jews. As to the Palestinian civilians who actually were removed or killed by Jewish forces (Irgun), Israel was in the wrong. But of course the troubled history of Jews and Arabs and the Middle East did not start in 1948. HOW WERE JEWS TREATED BEFORE 1948 Going back to 1941 there was the Grand Mufti Amin al Housseini, the religious Arab leader, initiator of the Palestinian nationalist movement, who went to live in Germany and entered into negotiations with Hitler's government, seeking and in fact securing der Fuhrer's heartfelt personal assurances that the Nazis, after defeating the Soviets, would openly declare their support and render assistance in eradicating the Jewish presence from British Mandatory Palestine (approximately territory of Israel plus Kingdom of Jordan). The Palestinian-German conspiracy to export the Final Solution set the aspiring Palestinian Nation on a collision course with both Israel and the Allies confronting Adolf Hitler. Thank God the Nazis lost, and the Soviets were too much to handle for German forces, so the Grand Mufti's eagerly awaited help to eliminate the Jews never arrived. Case of the Arab/Palestinians making the wrong choice. This explains too why since the 1930's the Arabs repeatedly rejected British and United Nations offers to have a Palestinian State alongside a Jewish State. They had it all figured out: if all went according to plan, there wouldn't be any Jews around to share the land with! USING THE A-WORD It makes me uneasy to use this word, but here it is. Antisemitism. When it comes to how ancient Judea's (=Land of the Jews) neighbors deeply felt about Jews it goes well beyond discrimination or a degree of unfairness. Since at least the beginning of the Common Era the Jews seem to have annoyed the hell out of everybody. They were rebellious enough to have Emperor Titus blow a gasket and utterly sack and demolish the 2nd Temple of Jerusalem in the year 70 CE. Titus out of sheer spite renamed Judea as Palestina, after the infamous invaders of Canaan/Israel and settlers of Gaza(!) in the 14th century BCE, those relentless enemies of the Jews we all know as the Philistines (translated from Caanite 'Pelestes'=People of the Sea). Titus in 70 CE scattered the Jewish people all over the world. Being a resourceful, invariably thriving and distinctly recognizable minority, they drew the unkind attention of Roman Catholic Emperors, earned the ire of the emerging Muslim Caliphate 7th century onward notably from an unfavorable mention in the Qur'an, accusing them of among many other sins of 'corrupting', intentionally altering the text of the Torah (never mind this was a false, unhistorical claim, the association with the worst possible sin against Allah stuck!). I believe it primarily was the popular perception of the Jew as wicked sinner who somehow still survived, even lived well, was that which engendered the intense undercurrents and murderous flare ups of hatred expressed as pogroms, especially within Muslim lands. 
The October 7 Al Aqsa Flood
Operation was Hamas' opening move to Allah's final Hour, the Apocalypse.
Looking at the relationship of Jews and Arabs today, there has not been decades or a century of bad blood between these two, but many thousands of years: we may have to go back to 1800 BCE when half brothers Isaac (father of the Jews) and Ishmael (father to Arabs) competed for any and all favor bestowed by their father Abraham and respective moms Sarah and Hagar. So how did we get from rough horseplay and sibling intrigue between two brothers 3800 years ago to centuries of pogroms, plans to commit genocide and Gazan psychopaths running amok in sleeping Jewish communities? Mind you, Hamas has expressed intent to repeat the same type of operation in future, their charter rejecting any outcome short of the destruction of Israel. To fully involve the Gazan populace Hamas TV has brainwashed a whole generation with literally insane children's programs inciting hatred of Jews and glorifying violence and suicide bombing. A NICE GAME OF CHESS AFTER ALL October 7 imo wasn't some aberration, many years of frustration coming to the inevitable tragic boiling point. This is not the end. Hamas, building on the efforts of earlier terror organizations, has been planning and preparing for years, digging tunnels, acquiring billions worth of weaponry, training Jihadists, whipping up Gazans into a Jew-hating frenzy and formulating a long term strategy to achieve their ultimate objective. Jews begone. The Al Aqsa Flood operation WAS MERELY A FEINT. A stab aimed at an enemy's eyes to make him do what you want. Hamas made the OPENING move. Now we begin...purr
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Post by purr on Apr 23, 2024 12:04:32 GMT
LET'S NOT MISS THE LITTLE PICTURE
My Muslim neighbors, colleagues and friends are among the most civil people I've ever come across, and I wholeheartedly defend their right to believe and worship as they wish. These days seem like the ideal time to zoom out and get the overview of Iran, Israel and the US making some bold chess moves. I panicked for a second flashing to a middle east WWIII scenario. Yet after the massive Iranian missile attack on Israel, effectively thwarted by an joint Israeli, Jordanian, French, British and American operation, Israel retaliated with a measured attack against military targets, reportedly using explosive drones (downplayed by Iran as 'children's toys') to destroy infrastructure with limited loss of life. Code for both sides being fully cognizant that with neighboring and western allies guarding Israel's sky and territory, and especially America's BIG TOYS (can you spell aircraft carrier?) dominating any ensuing battlefield, Iran prudently deems honor served, time to return to skirmish by proxy (supposedly the severely degraded Hamas battalions and cautious Hezbollah). But then there's this crazy stuff. Let's zoom IN. In Australia (last time I checked not in the middle east no) an Assyrian Church Bishop named Mar Mari Emmanuel was conducting the evening service on monday April 15th at Christ The Good Shepherd Church in the western suburb of Wakeley - Sydney, and among his parishioners a 16-yr old young man was attending. He had brought in a small knife of the type you may open using a flick of the wrist, done right it's suited for fast deployment so we see him going for the preaching bishop, knife being flipped to the 'open' position in an overhand grip (like Norman Bates in the Psycho movies) and this lad is flying.. quick stabbing at Mar Mari's left eye, followed up with several more frenzied downward stabs at the defenseless Father. I've heard it say that Eastern Assyrian Christians do not dive and cower like some pampered turn-the-other-cheek churches in the West. Perhaps from their history of enduring anti-Christian pogroms and having been targeted by ACTUAL genocides they have become wise to the world, so a priest unhesitatingly put his body between the knife and his bishop, and with the help of other parishioners subdued the Allahu Akbar chanting attacker. At that point it became clear that the young Jihadist botched the opening of his knife, it never 'locked' causing him to sever a number of his own fingers from the extreme force of the stabs. Or maybe God intervened thinking brother Mar had yet a few entertaining sermons in him, let's keep this FUNNY dude around for yet a while longer? Thank the Lord the Assyrian bishop is recovering from his injuries and praying for the forgiveness and salvation of his assailant. 
Now with America's BIG TOYS in play, Iran prudently deems honor served, time to return to skirmish by proxy (=Hezbollah/Hamas/Houthi). Whatever the hidden workings of heaven, the attacker was wrestled to the floor, and as he was held down, he was exuberant and smirking, explaining that Mar Mari Emmanuel had insulted his Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him!) which had motivated him to hand deliver the punishment of Allah.
Our Muslim brothers and sisters should continue to worship at mosque and read the Quran in freedom. I am pointing out a problem with Quran-fundamentalism that takes 7th century calls to violence literally and acts out accordingly. By now the world is well aware this act of Islamist terror doesn't stand alone, but is part of a pattern of similar attacks, like that brutal stabbing at an Australian mall a few days earlier, targeting women and injuring a baby. There have been hundreds of such Jihadi attacks everywhere. The difference with Mar Mari is that he was livestreaming the evening service, so we can hear the repeated shouting of God is Greater in Arabic, and even the Islamic justification for his actions is clearly heard from the holy warrior's own lips. How peculiar that the majority of worldwide Jihad is misreported, like in saying an attacker suffered from a mental illness, or a Nigerian Christian village was destroyed by 'Shepherds'. No doubt many are quite insane, and keep enough goats and sheep penned for a 'bring your own AK-47' Shish Kebab communal dinner. The religious nature of their Jihad stays under the radar because there's usually no (living) witness, no journalist or camera around to record their Allahu Akbars, their depraved slaughter of perceived Kuffar, the unbelievers, Christians and Jews who stubbornly refuse to accept the one God, Allah and his Messenger Muhammad. I believe the 7th October al-Aqsa Flood Operation against Israel's kibbutzim villages, the Genocide inciting 'From the river to the sea' protests in the West, the rocketing of Israel by its neighboring enemies and the targeting of Jews, Christians and 'unbelievers', basically all non-Muslims worldwide, comprise one single effort. This will be the final Jihad for Allah until the Hour will come, and while the West sleeps, Islam ...Inshallah... will establish its terrifying, blood spattered version of Peace all across planet Earth. purr P.S. My Muslim neighbors, colleagues and friends are among the most civil people I've ever come across, and I defend their right to believe and worship as they wish, read the Quran, attend mosque, have the best life they can have. I am pointing out a problem with a Quran-fundamentalist version, or ISLAMIST interpretation of Islam taking 7th century calls to violence literally and acting out accordingly. P.P.S. Examples of the violence mandate in Islam's sacred texts (Quran and Hadith): Surah 9 At-Tawba verse 5 (Translation A. Yusuf Ali)
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.Source Quran.comSahih Muslim 2922 (speech by Prophet Muhammad)
The hour will not come unless the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them, until the Jews hide behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.Source Sunnah.com
Islam mandates its followers to engage the unbelievers in every stratagem of war. ~ ~ ~ |
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At the risk of making this thread another analysis of this horrific war after all, I've been wrecking my brain for a way toward peace between the two warring parties and peoples. I'm asking WHY is Hamas sending out its 'elite' units along with a mob of 'ordinary' Gazans who burst out of containment and rush at the kibbutzim communities behaving like bloodthirsty psychopaths. Or worse, like the flesh eating armies from the zombie flick World War Z. (Awesome movie with Brad Pitt, and as it happens several big action scenes shot in Israel and Jerusalem). October 7 was like the gates of hell opening and demons walking the earth.
