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Post by chillstar on Sept 24, 2023 20:26:36 GMT
If there is a hidden tenth planet, like Zecharia Sitchin had alledged, it can hold the key to uncovering how our solar system was created. Either by cosmic natural laws, or maybe by some advanced ancient civilization--like perhaps the mythical Zetans. Either way, its [Nibiru] discovery could be as important as finding fossils on Mars or some interstellar asteroid.
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Post by HAL on Sept 26, 2023 21:16:52 GMT
We can (apparently) detect the existence of water molecules on planets many light years away. So we should be able to find a planet in our own back yard.
My guess is that it does not exist.
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Post by cotes777 on Sept 27, 2023 4:38:24 GMT
Or, it is hidden: www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/scientists-hint-at-cloud-planet-hiding-in-our-solar-system/ar-AA1hi6cG?cvid=cbd23f9f93c04259c0022a04d611a54d&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=3Story by Alex Daniel There are eight planets in our solar system – plus poor old Pluto, which was demoted in 2006 – but what if there were more? Turns out that might be the case. Astronomers have calculated there is a 7 per cent chance that Earth has another neighbour hiding in the Oort cloud, a spherical region of ice chunks and rocks that is tens of thousands of times farther from the sun than we are. “It’s completely plausible for our solar system to have captured such an Oort cloud planet,” said Nathan Kaib, a co-author on the work and an astronomer at the Planetary Science Institute. Hidden worlds like this are “a class of planets that should definitely exist but have received relatively little attention” until now, he said.. If a planet is hiding in the Oort cloud, it’s almost certainly an ice giant. Large planets like Jupiter and Saturn are generally born as twins. They have huge gravitational pulls of their own, however, and sometimes destabilise one another. That could have led to a planet to be nudged out of the solar system entirely – or exiled to its outer reaches, where the Oort cloud resides. “The survivor planets have eccentric orbits, which are like the scars from their violent pasts,” said lead author Sean Raymond, researcher at the University of Bordeaux’s Astrophysics Laboratory. That means that the Oort cloud planet could have a significantly elongated orbit, unlike the near-perfect circle Earth tracks around the sun. Trouble is, when things are that far away, they’re pretty difficult to spot. “It would be extremely hard to detect,” added Raymond. “If a Neptune-sized planet existed in our own Oort cloud, there’s a good chance that we wouldn’t have found it yet,” said Malena Rice, an astronomer at MIT not involved in this work. “Amazingly, it can sometimes be easier to spot planets hundreds of light-years away than those right in our own backyard.” Time to crack out the telescope. Update: The headline of this article was amended on 20 September 2023. It previously stated that scientists had discovered another planet in our solar system, but this was inaccurate. They were merely considering the likelihood of this being the case.
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Post by chillstar on Sept 27, 2023 22:44:34 GMT
I tend to agree. It is not likely, even though possible, that a tenth planet exists. No doubt the result of some one's overactive imagination, or wishful thinking. Or perhaps, some cosmological or mathematical miscalculations.
However, there are lone planets that have been found in space, that do not revolve around any suns. One such planet, close to some sun, maybe like ours for instance--but not close enough to get caught by its [the sun's] gravitational pull--could exert some gravity related influence into the making of a life sustaining solar system.
Such a planet could also have been used by some ancient civilization with highly advanced skills and tools, to influence the shaping of a solar system--from oval to circular--and help populate and sustain life on it. Anything is possible.
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Post by cotes777 on Oct 1, 2023 16:08:46 GMT
Space is so vast and there are things being discovered literally almost daily now.
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Post by purr on Oct 1, 2023 16:15:20 GMT
Space is so vast and there are things being discovered literally almost daily now. I agree, Astronomy is advancing at such breakneck speeds it seems we know nothing at all. Our Universe is a place of wonders and unending mysteries. purr
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Post by maxxhazzard on Oct 5, 2023 18:25:25 GMT
do you really think, we are capable of finding a tenth planet?
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Post by chillstar on Oct 17, 2023 19:54:17 GMT
If not a tenth planet, how about a ninth (click on the word ninth). There could be one past Neptune, just before the Kuiper belt.
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Post by purr on Oct 20, 2023 10:44:26 GMT
If not a tenth planet, how about a ninth (click on the word ninth). There could be one past Neptune, just before the Kuiper belt. Hi Chillstar, nice article, ninth(?) well, depends how you count planets so if we again count Pluto in (as well as its supposedly 'planetoid' siblings uh... have we found them all now?) that elusive world X might be number 10 or 12 or more. Not meaning to nitpick, but there's an error in the text. In the third paragraph it says: "Various recipes of MOND (=Modified Newtonian Dynamics) might essentially explain how galaxies rotate as fast as they do without flying apart. Typically, most scientists believe this suspicious galactic structural hold suggests the existence of dark matter — an invisible form of matter that does emit or reflect light."...which should of course read ".....the existence of dark matter - an invisible form of matter that does not emit or reflect light"... The scientists' discovery involves some strange/anomalous object orbits within the Kuiper belt, indicating these are orbiting AROUND sumtin massive enough to exert a significant gravitational pull. In the past such off orbital behavior has been the indicator of planetary presence. The Xtra planet of our Solar System maybe? However their research seem to find MOND effects, taking into account our solar system's gravitational effect plus that of the Milky Way, constitute the more likely explanation for orbital weirdness in the Kuiper belt. Modified Newtonian Dynamics then removes the need for an extra planet as well as Dark Matter. Be it they are very unsure of this outcome, pending further study. Personally I like planet X for it. It's the smallest tweak to the knowledge of our solar system and physics laws already on the books. Unless it turns out to be populated with intelligent life, that would be more of a shock. purr
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