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Post by maxxhazzard on Jun 13, 2023 21:19:36 GMT
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Post by cotes777 on Jun 19, 2023 5:29:59 GMT
This fella seems like a "controlled" version of William Cooper.
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Post by drwu on Aug 13, 2023 17:44:14 GMT
Late to the party here but my question on Grusch is ,,,, why would the 'secret ufo group' go to him (or send people to him ) and share the 'truth'? Why allow him to tell their tale. Why not simply come forward themselves? Why not go to Elizondo who has been pushing for disclosure before Grusch appeared.
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Post by HAL on Aug 14, 2023 10:54:53 GMT
Possibly because Elizondo tends to be viewed as part of the ufo circus ? Along with Kemp.
Even Taylor is viewed that way to some nowadays.
But Grusch has brought it out into the light in a way that almost forces the authorities to carry on the discussion. People will want to know about the progress being made regarding the questioning of the people he pointed the finger at; even if we don't know yet who they were.
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Post by cotes777 on Aug 16, 2023 4:45:37 GMT
What truth is revealed by looking at a cloud of lies? This is so deep into the cloak and dagger/spy world that it is unlikely we will ever know all the facts. Aliens would literally have to land on the field of a baseball game and come out of their craft and make some form of communication with people [beyond a government or military or organization]. This doesn't happen... why? How is it that the people who conduct psy-ops are the only ones with information? Doesn't this seem curious?
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Post by HAL on Aug 16, 2023 21:11:18 GMT
What truth is revealed by looking at a cloud of lies? This is so deep into the cloak and dagger/spy world that it is unlikely we will ever know all the facts. Aliens would literally have to land on the field of a baseball game and come out of their craft and make some form of communication with people [beyond a government or military or organization]. This doesn't happen... why? How is it that the people who conduct psy-ops are the only ones with information? Doesn't this seem curious? In a word, no. why would it ?
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Post by drwu on Aug 17, 2023 1:14:19 GMT
I'm on the fence on this one......who would he come foreward if he's telling lies? His ass will be in deep doo doo. I think someone has fed him this info....and he thinks its true. Time will tell....if we hear nothing more then he was modt likely lied to.
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Post by cotes777 on Aug 17, 2023 1:43:39 GMT
Hi Hal - I understand your cynical viewpoint, in fact I can appreciate it. I remember you from years past when I frequented these cyber pages. Any person who has been around the subject for this long has gone through the ups and downs and through the vast amount of disinformation; from fake Oberg accounts to star children with pages long accountings... to click bait movie and video game stunts to desperate people hoping for attention... cynic turns to realistic. Thia all doesn't mean that a truth is not out there. I think it highlights that there is a truth out there that is being hidden by as many distractions as we would entertain. Hi drwu - He could easily be mislead. I can't help but to consider William Cooper. He was allowed to see certain information and they kinda let him go out and spread it, but in a different venue, and in a different era. This time, it seems much more controlled, or steered to a desired outcome. I still wish the et would just land on a nfl football field, during the playoffs of a Cowboys game, so everyone is watching heh heh
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Post by HAL on Aug 17, 2023 11:13:06 GMT
We will see what happens...or we wont.
There must logically be an ultimate truth about everything. But it will be scrambled in the interpretation.
Ten people could witness a road accident, then give ten different accounts on how it happened.
But if anything is going to happen, it needs to happen soon. I'm running out of time.
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Post by swamprat on Aug 17, 2023 14:34:08 GMT
We will see what happens...or we wont. There must logically be an ultimate truth about everything. But it will be scrambled in the interpretation. Ten people could witness a road accident, then give ten different accounts on how it happened. But if anything is going to happen, it needs to happen soon. I'm running out of time. Agreed. I turned 81 last month. This thing needs to hurry up. Swamp
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Post by moksha on Aug 17, 2023 20:31:00 GMT
Hey ya,ll , the whole story has evolved, very curious indeed, nice to see old names post. The NEWSNATION, channel has been removed from my tv supplier, it does seem to be steered!!! The part I'm most interested in, is the HOW!!! ADVANCED TECH!!! Hope no one minds, but I call ANCIENT WIFI The one part this story bothers me is the STEERING like, far away solar system Swamp gas Refractive lite from venus Green Men Mars Anyway, advanced tech, doesn't seem to be a subject, brought to question.
And it's being demonstrated, Right? Not sure I should ask by who or when.
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Post by HAL on Aug 18, 2023 15:55:21 GMT
We will see what happens...or we wont. There must logically be an ultimate truth about everything. But it will be scrambled in the interpretation. Ten people could witness a road accident, then give ten different accounts on how it happened. But if anything is going to happen, it needs to happen soon. I'm running out of time. Agreed. I turned 81 last month. This thing needs to hurry up. Swamp Hang in there, Swamp. I'm just 2 years behind you.
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Post by HAL on Aug 18, 2023 15:59:29 GMT
Hey ya,ll , the whole story has evolved, very curious indeed, nice to see old names post. The NEWSNATION, channel has been removed from my tv supplier, it does seem to be steered!!! The part I'm most interested in, is the HOW!!! ADVANCED TECH!!! Hope no one minds, but I call ANCIENT WIFI The one part this story bothers me is the STEERING like, far away solar system Swamp gas Refractive lite from venus Green Men Mars Anyway, advanced tech, doesn't seem to be a subject, brought to question. And it's being demonstrated, Right? Not sure I should ask by who or when. Ever noticed how all the objects that do (apparently) come to ground seem to do so in some out-of -the- way place. Never in a major conurbation or a city ?
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Post by moksha on Aug 18, 2023 18:08:56 GMT
Hey ya,ll , the whole story has evolved, very curious indeed, nice to see old names post. The NEWSNATION, channel has been removed from my tv supplier, it does seem to be steered!!! The part I'm most interested in, is the HOW!!! ADVANCED TECH!!! Hope no one minds, but I call ANCIENT WIFI The one part this story bothers me is the STEERING like, far away solar system Swamp gas Refractive lite from venus Green Men Mars Anyway, advanced tech, doesn't seem to be a subject, brought to question. And it's being demonstrated, Right? Not sure I should ask by who or when. Ever noticed how all the objects that do (apparently) come to ground seem to do so in some out-of -the- way place. Never in a major conurbation or a city ? Yes Hal, I've noticed, here in the states there is a on going tv show called, Skin walker ranch, not sure if you've seen it, I know it's on TV, so my skeptical ears get big due the steering, I hope that's not the case, but they have recorded interesting UFOs both nuts and bolts type appearing and vanishing on the ground, and the orb type flying threw the Mesa. There is a reason why the objects seem to stay away from centers of human activity, my speculation is, just like the Native American people bad things happen there, so stay away, don't live there. The sighting in Arizona, over populated area was most likely the TR3B, NOT MADE official yet. But not on the ground. What if the Roswell crash was the Mussolini craft, David said "we scooped up" and the US was playing with, and people got hurt. Reason for cover up.
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Post by HAL on Aug 18, 2023 21:12:43 GMT
Not sure what you mean by the Mussolini craft. Mussolini being the Italian fascist leader in WWII and he being thousands of miles from Roswell.
I did watch the first three series of 'The Curse of Skinwalker Ranch' as it was called over here. But the fourth series hasn't been available to us yet. Pity, as I was really looking forward to it. I do find it very interesting. Often for the things they don't do as to the things they do.
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