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Jimmy Church/John Greenewald – The End Of TTSA? Or Jealous, Ego-Driven Rants?
7 Aug , 2019
Transcript of Jimmy Church, July 20th, 2019 interview of John Greenewald of The Black Vault.
Transcribed by Joe Murgia
Jimmy Church = JC
John Greenewald = JG
Jimmy Church: Last night, Don Schmidt mentioned a few times how the UFO community is used to spread disinfo. by the Air Force, the CIA and the Department of Defense. And we’ve been used to this. And of course, you know, we have the famous case of William Bill Moore, which I’ve talked about many times over the years. And is it possible? Is it possible that the claims of Richard Doty, on this very show, that there are currently disinfo. agents on the UFO lecture circuit? Right? Well, I think it’s a possibility. I look around after…especially after Doty, but I did this before, too as well. You just kinda gotta…kinda gotta look at everybody and listen to the conversation and how they’re dealing with things and how people talk to me. And you gotta watch this person. It seems like there’s something going on. You just gotta be aware. Right?
I can assure you of this: I’m not on anybody’s payroll. I don’t take suggestions from people…guest questions, things to investigate, things to talk about. I don’t do any of that. We do our own thing here. But is it possible? Is it possible that maybe the CIA in Washington DC have an interest in spreading and controlling the UFO information that is all over the place these days? Well of course they do. They did it in the past. They’re doing it now. And they will do it in the future. It’s always been this way. And there’s reasons for that. You know, talking about this subject nearly every single night on the show, has to be done. And this community, which is acclimated to the situation at hand, for sure. But we can’t get complacent, we can’t get comfortable, we can’t let our guard down.
And I’ve said many, many, many, many times that there is some type of controlled roll-out that is going on right now. And although it’s fun…it’s cool to see, you know, pick up my phone and go to CNN or go to Fox or RT or BBC or NBC. Whatever! Just go out there and there’s a new, fresh UFO story there. There’s a new, fresh exoplanet discovery. There’s more search for alien life. You know, and it’s it’s every single day. There’s not a day that doesn’t pass now. And it was never like that before. It never was. Today, it’s everywhere. So we have to ask why. What is going on and who is doing it? That’s where we can’t get comfortable because we all want disclosure. We all do. We all want it. In our own way, whatever disclosure is, we want it. And I get that and I understand it.
But enjoying the moment and letting our guard down? That’s what the man wants. They want to control the information. They want to control, what you are ingesting. Right? And how it gets exposed. And how it…not only gets out there, but spreads. Who is spreading it and how it’s being done. There are people that are trusted inside of this community. Are they tools? Do they even know that they are tools? Or worse yet…are there researchers and authors and show hosts out there that, quite frankly, have ego that come into play and they’re fighting for fame. And they want their name out there and they don’t care how it happens. Right? And they just move their way through the UFO community and trying to make a name for themselves. Or they know that this is something that they shouldn’t be close to. But they ignore it. Yeah.
Well, I’m gonna to be talking about all of this tonight. And it’s…it’s an uncomfortable thing to hear. But we need to hear it. And the things that I’m gonna present tonight are going to be a little bit dark at times. So stay right there.
~~~
JC: I’m gonna get straight to it. Because it’s like this: I’m more than a little nervous. I’ve sent out my subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, warnings over the last year about the message and information flooding out through the mainstream media, when it comes to the UFO question, And my main message has always been to remain calm. Keep your radar up on high and don’t jump in too quickly. When it comes to the “To The Stars Academy” or TTSA, the signs were always there. It’s too much, it’s too quick and it’s full of holes. Now, I’m not being harsh on TTSA. I just want you to listen and open your eyes and ears.
You see, the members of our community and this host, are just too smart. We’ve all been through this before, many times. So for most of us, we are in a wait and see mode before we embrace TTSA and their mission. But for those outside of our community who don’t have any experience with disinfo. agents, misdirection and bad actors from the CIA or the Department of Defense, see TTSA as a Tom DeLonge UFO project, guided by Tom. Run by Tom. After all, a UFO company run by the Blink 182 front man has got to be cool and legit, right? You know, it’s like, go Tom! And I get it. You do, too. Those outsiders lacking experience with the UFO question, who might look under the TTSA hood and see the CIA and DoD counterintelligence connections, will think that Tom’s got the people in the know. Right? Working for him. Staffed with the best, most professional agents and spies that you can put together.
In fact, they don’t care. Because it looks legit. It sounds legit. It must be legit. After all, it’s Tom DeLonge from Blink 182. He’s a punk. He’s a rebel. He doesn’t trust the man. He’s anti everything so he must know what he’s doing, right? Well, in the punk world, not trusting the man is your street cred. That’s right. Let alone being seen with someone from the other side. You don’t do that in the punk world. Seriously. It’s a very big deal. And it’s a big deal to Tom. And I understand this. This also makes Tom the perfect guy for the man to embrace. The CIA and DoD had been waiting for the right person for a very long time. And quite frankly, he was a gift. There is no doubt that Tom DeLonge is serious about UFOs, though. He has talent. He has…he’s a real artist. And with that comes passion. And when you have the success that he has had, it means that truckloads of money come along for the ride. Anything that you want to do, well, you just do it. You can do anything.
Well, this is where the CIA and counterintelligence professionals come in. There is one thing that they are all taught from the word go: When you have someone that you need on your side, you stroke them. It’s their first priority. Their first priority is to make you feel special, That it’s all about you. You are the best. You are respected. You are the only one. And that’s how they got to Tom. And I get that. I’ve heard him say it. And so have you. In our interview on Fade to Black, he stressed this many times. And I understand it. But Tom isn’t the only one, by the way. He’s not. And I can assure you that there are those over at TTSA that have said all of those things, right? Anybody out there waving the flag for the academy, TTSA, they hear it. They hear that they are the best journalists. That they’re the best authors. They’re the best researchers. That they have their respect. And who doesn’t wanna hear that? Well, we all do. And the CIA and counterintelligence agents know this. It’s how they roll.
Now, I’m not going to disclose anything private that was discussed between TTSA and myself over the years. I won’t do it. That’s not cool. But I will say this: I have had many, many conversations with top members of this community. And they’ve all told me the same things when it comes to TTSA. That TTSA loves me. Not me, Jimmy. I’m talking about the researchers, the authors. That they love them. They respect their work. They know how professional they are in that the community listens to them because they know that they can trust them. You know, and I’ve heard this so many times now, it’s almost scripted, word for word. This is what scares me the most. And it just seems…it just seems that there is an actual CIA counter-intel, DoD machine up and running for real. This isn’t some Tom Clancy, Clive Cussler spy novel fiction, for fun. This is reality.
And remember, this is my opinion. I don’t have some insider at the CIA feeding me classified information. I don’t have someone at TTSA speaking off the record. In fact, I’m only using the facts as presented by TTSA and their public records, their statements and their presentations. For me, it isn’t bending and molding things in a certain way to make it seem like there is something going on. No. In fact, you don’t even have to do that sort of stuff. You don’t have to use your imagination and go full on conspiracy. No, you don’t have to do it. You just have to read it for yourself. So, if you don’t think that “To The Stars Academy” is a fully staffed CIA, DoD, counter-intel company, put together for some crazy UFO agenda, listen to this:
Here are 9 of the 12 key staff for “To The Stars Academy,” their TTSA job title and their work experience. (The first three are pictured.)
Jimmy Church/John Greenewald – The End Of TTSA? Or Jealous, Ego-Driven Rants?
7 Aug , 2019
Transcript of Jimmy Church, July 20th, 2019 interview of John Greenewald of The Black Vault.
Transcribed by Joe Murgia
Jimmy Church = JC
John Greenewald = JG
Jimmy Church: Last night, Don Schmidt mentioned a few times how the UFO community is used to spread disinfo. by the Air Force, the CIA and the Department of Defense. And we’ve been used to this. And of course, you know, we have the famous case of William Bill Moore, which I’ve talked about many times over the years. And is it possible? Is it possible that the claims of Richard Doty, on this very show, that there are currently disinfo. agents on the UFO lecture circuit? Right? Well, I think it’s a possibility. I look around after…especially after Doty, but I did this before, too as well. You just kinda gotta…kinda gotta look at everybody and listen to the conversation and how they’re dealing with things and how people talk to me. And you gotta watch this person. It seems like there’s something going on. You just gotta be aware. Right?
I can assure you of this: I’m not on anybody’s payroll. I don’t take suggestions from people…guest questions, things to investigate, things to talk about. I don’t do any of that. We do our own thing here. But is it possible? Is it possible that maybe the CIA in Washington DC have an interest in spreading and controlling the UFO information that is all over the place these days? Well of course they do. They did it in the past. They’re doing it now. And they will do it in the future. It’s always been this way. And there’s reasons for that. You know, talking about this subject nearly every single night on the show, has to be done. And this community, which is acclimated to the situation at hand, for sure. But we can’t get complacent, we can’t get comfortable, we can’t let our guard down.
And I’ve said many, many, many, many times that there is some type of controlled roll-out that is going on right now. And although it’s fun…it’s cool to see, you know, pick up my phone and go to CNN or go to Fox or RT or BBC or NBC. Whatever! Just go out there and there’s a new, fresh UFO story there. There’s a new, fresh exoplanet discovery. There’s more search for alien life. You know, and it’s it’s every single day. There’s not a day that doesn’t pass now. And it was never like that before. It never was. Today, it’s everywhere. So we have to ask why. What is going on and who is doing it? That’s where we can’t get comfortable because we all want disclosure. We all do. We all want it. In our own way, whatever disclosure is, we want it. And I get that and I understand it.
But enjoying the moment and letting our guard down? That’s what the man wants. They want to control the information. They want to control, what you are ingesting. Right? And how it gets exposed. And how it…not only gets out there, but spreads. Who is spreading it and how it’s being done. There are people that are trusted inside of this community. Are they tools? Do they even know that they are tools? Or worse yet…are there researchers and authors and show hosts out there that, quite frankly, have ego that come into play and they’re fighting for fame. And they want their name out there and they don’t care how it happens. Right? And they just move their way through the UFO community and trying to make a name for themselves. Or they know that this is something that they shouldn’t be close to. But they ignore it. Yeah.
Well, I’m gonna to be talking about all of this tonight. And it’s…it’s an uncomfortable thing to hear. But we need to hear it. And the things that I’m gonna present tonight are going to be a little bit dark at times. So stay right there.
~~~
JC: I’m gonna get straight to it. Because it’s like this: I’m more than a little nervous. I’ve sent out my subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, warnings over the last year about the message and information flooding out through the mainstream media, when it comes to the UFO question, And my main message has always been to remain calm. Keep your radar up on high and don’t jump in too quickly. When it comes to the “To The Stars Academy” or TTSA, the signs were always there. It’s too much, it’s too quick and it’s full of holes. Now, I’m not being harsh on TTSA. I just want you to listen and open your eyes and ears.
You see, the members of our community and this host, are just too smart. We’ve all been through this before, many times. So for most of us, we are in a wait and see mode before we embrace TTSA and their mission. But for those outside of our community who don’t have any experience with disinfo. agents, misdirection and bad actors from the CIA or the Department of Defense, see TTSA as a Tom DeLonge UFO project, guided by Tom. Run by Tom. After all, a UFO company run by the Blink 182 front man has got to be cool and legit, right? You know, it’s like, go Tom! And I get it. You do, too. Those outsiders lacking experience with the UFO question, who might look under the TTSA hood and see the CIA and DoD counterintelligence connections, will think that Tom’s got the people in the know. Right? Working for him. Staffed with the best, most professional agents and spies that you can put together.
In fact, they don’t care. Because it looks legit. It sounds legit. It must be legit. After all, it’s Tom DeLonge from Blink 182. He’s a punk. He’s a rebel. He doesn’t trust the man. He’s anti everything so he must know what he’s doing, right? Well, in the punk world, not trusting the man is your street cred. That’s right. Let alone being seen with someone from the other side. You don’t do that in the punk world. Seriously. It’s a very big deal. And it’s a big deal to Tom. And I understand this. This also makes Tom the perfect guy for the man to embrace. The CIA and DoD had been waiting for the right person for a very long time. And quite frankly, he was a gift. There is no doubt that Tom DeLonge is serious about UFOs, though. He has talent. He has…he’s a real artist. And with that comes passion. And when you have the success that he has had, it means that truckloads of money come along for the ride. Anything that you want to do, well, you just do it. You can do anything.
Well, this is where the CIA and counterintelligence professionals come in. There is one thing that they are all taught from the word go: When you have someone that you need on your side, you stroke them. It’s their first priority. Their first priority is to make you feel special, That it’s all about you. You are the best. You are respected. You are the only one. And that’s how they got to Tom. And I get that. I’ve heard him say it. And so have you. In our interview on Fade to Black, he stressed this many times. And I understand it. But Tom isn’t the only one, by the way. He’s not. And I can assure you that there are those over at TTSA that have said all of those things, right? Anybody out there waving the flag for the academy, TTSA, they hear it. They hear that they are the best journalists. That they’re the best authors. They’re the best researchers. That they have their respect. And who doesn’t wanna hear that? Well, we all do. And the CIA and counterintelligence agents know this. It’s how they roll.
Now, I’m not going to disclose anything private that was discussed between TTSA and myself over the years. I won’t do it. That’s not cool. But I will say this: I have had many, many conversations with top members of this community. And they’ve all told me the same things when it comes to TTSA. That TTSA loves me. Not me, Jimmy. I’m talking about the researchers, the authors. That they love them. They respect their work. They know how professional they are in that the community listens to them because they know that they can trust them. You know, and I’ve heard this so many times now, it’s almost scripted, word for word. This is what scares me the most. And it just seems…it just seems that there is an actual CIA counter-intel, DoD machine up and running for real. This isn’t some Tom Clancy, Clive Cussler spy novel fiction, for fun. This is reality.
And remember, this is my opinion. I don’t have some insider at the CIA feeding me classified information. I don’t have someone at TTSA speaking off the record. In fact, I’m only using the facts as presented by TTSA and their public records, their statements and their presentations. For me, it isn’t bending and molding things in a certain way to make it seem like there is something going on. No. In fact, you don’t even have to do that sort of stuff. You don’t have to use your imagination and go full on conspiracy. No, you don’t have to do it. You just have to read it for yourself. So, if you don’t think that “To The Stars Academy” is a fully staffed CIA, DoD, counter-intel company, put together for some crazy UFO agenda, listen to this:
Here are 9 of the 12 key staff for “To The Stars Academy,” their TTSA job title and their work experience. (The first three are pictured.)
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