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Post by buzzbomb on Dec 11, 2021 15:32:33 GMT
At this time, I have decided that 411 is a lot of bunk. I hereby will not continue this thread. I guess I tried to give it some credence because I can't believe in UFOs as much as I have tried. I don't believe in them. There is no evidence. People who say they they've seen them are crazy, mistaken or lying. It's a monotonous diversion for kooks. I just read some skeptical analysis of this whole phenomenon and I have to concede--there's nothing to speculate on. As one skeptical author wrote: "It's a big nothing burger." He's right. It's time to retire this stupid stuff which has not one legitimate piece of evidence to back it up. 411 has no evidence at all--even less than UFO videos that are obviously nothing but drones, planes, meteors, fireworks. I refuse to even look at UFO videos. They're so stupid.
Regarding 411, one guy told me, "If you can conclude one is fake or natural, you can conclude all of them are." At first, I argued this but then I realized he is absolutely right. Why? Because the ones regarded as truly mysterious have no evidence and the ones that are clearly not mysterious have evidence. Just put 2 and 2 together. Once you have evidence, the disappearances are just normal. How can I conclude anything to be real on no evidence?? I realized I have been stupid and foolish and I apologize for wasting anyone's time--mostly my own. When you extend that line of thinking to the entire UFO phenomenon, the result is the same---no evidence. When there is evidence, it's not mysterious anymore.
Well, no one can say I didn't make an attempt to give this garbage a fair hearing. I did and the evidence is totally wanting. I got tired of being a skeptic but a skeptic what I am inside and I may as well embrace it because the skeptics are always right. When anyone gets REAL evidence that 411 or UFOs are real, let me know. You won't find it though. That I can guarantee. With that, I end this thread.
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Post by swamprat on Dec 11, 2021 16:16:41 GMT
Buzz, no apology needed. It is okay, even wise to be skeptical. it is certainly apparent that the vast majority of missing persons and UFO reports do not have an alien-involved explanation. Therefore, many people become convinced that aliens are not visiting Earth. After all, the science of interstellar travel is daunting, to say the least. However, some of these events are weird enough to compel some of us to continue the exploration. We humans have a long way to go to understand just how far science will take us. Peace be with you, my friend.
Swamp
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Post by buzzbomb on Dec 11, 2021 19:40:51 GMT
Thank you for your generous reply, Swamp. You are correct that we have to hurl some major obstacles to a full understanding if all of this were real. But I don't begrudge anybody who wants to continue. Whatever lights your fire.
Also people can continue to post stuff on this thread if they want to. When I said I was ending it, I meant my participation. Anyone else is free to participate.
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Post by thelmadonna on Dec 12, 2021 1:36:58 GMT
At this time, I have decided that 411 is a lot of bunk. I hereby will not continue this thread. I guess I tried to give it some credence because I can't believe in UFOs as much as I have tried. I don't believe in them. There is no evidence. People who say they they've seen them are crazy, mistaken or lying. It's a monotonous diversion for kooks. I just read some skeptical analysis of this whole phenomenon and I have to concede--there's nothing to speculate on. As one skeptical author wrote: "It's a big nothing burger." He's right. It's time to retire this stupid stuff which has not one legitimate piece of evidence to back it up. 411 has no evidence at all--even less than UFO videos that are obviously nothing but drones, planes, meteors, fireworks. I refuse to even look at UFO videos. They're so stupid. Regarding 411, one guy told me, "If you can conclude one is fake or natural, you can conclude all of them are." At first, I argued this but then I realized he is absolutely right. Why? Because the ones regarded as truly mysterious have no evidence and the ones that are clearly not mysterious have evidence. Just put 2 and 2 together. Once you have evidence, the disappearances are just normal. How can I conclude anything to be real on no evidence?? I realized I have been stupid and foolish and I apologize for wasting anyone's time--mostly my own. When you extend that line of thinking to the entire UFO phenomenon, the result is the same---no evidence. When there is evidence, it's not mysterious anymore. Well, no one can say I didn't make an attempt to give this garbage a fair hearing. I did and the evidence is totally wanting. I got tired of being a skeptic but a skeptic what I am inside and I may as well embrace it because the skeptics are always right. When anyone gets REAL evidence that 411 or UFOs are real, let me know. You won't find it though. That I can guarantee. With that, I end this thread. I am pleaed you have come to this realization. I know it must be difficult to let this go, as you have spent much time and effort in broaching your subject , Don't be down about it. Let it be a weight off your shoulders. I agree it is okay to be a sceptic, but not a closed-minded one. Educate yourself. A few good terms for your search engine are ..... Betty Hills Star Map..... note the date she drew it and how long until it was until the science caught up with her. .... Bob Lazaars' discovery of Ununpentium (MOSCOVIUM)..... Also The US Gov has the Disclosure Procedures resuming early 2022, You may have no choice in the matter, I suppose you could still bury your head in the sand.
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Post by buzzbomb on Dec 13, 2021 17:28:13 GMT
Betty Hill claimed to know nothing about astronomy and claimed to see the map for only a few seconds. Now, how could she possibly have reproduced it faithfully from memory? Utterly impossible. Hypnosis doesn't work like that.
Bob Lazar is just a fraud. You can't prove or disprove anything he's said and I am not the type to believe that stuff without major evidence to back it up which he doesn't have and neither does anyone else. If the govt tells you that earth is in contact with ET's, they are lying.
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