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Post by buzzbomb on Apr 19, 2020 23:56:11 GMT
Fake news, its just too easy. Buzz even went to CNN in a hurry. "the cure is worse than the disease?" not if you've got it. Don't use the term "fake news." It means you're an idiot. You're not an idiot, are you?
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Post by WingsofCrystal on Apr 20, 2020 0:07:27 GMT
Fake news, its just too easy. Buzz even went to CNN in a hurry. "the cure is worse than the disease?" not if you've got it. Don't use the term "fake news." It means you're an idiot. You're not an idiot, are you? Buzzbomb stop calling people names. You are being really nasty in your posts. Knock it off.
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Post by buzzbomb on Apr 20, 2020 0:09:46 GMT
Trump touted himself as "the only one" who could save America from ruin. Well, take a look around! Did you ever see anything like this before? You think it's a coincidence that such a disaster happened on his watch? Bigger and more deadlier pandemics never or barely touched our shores. Why? Because earlier presidents understood the danger. This guy was asleep. A complete incompetent. In the military, when it happens on your watch, you take the bullet. Even if you inherited the problem. I live by that. That's how I was judged and that's how I judge others. He didn't even inherit this problem. It was ALL him from the git-go. Yes, of course, he should have been impeached. I think this proves it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 0:15:59 GMT
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Post by SysConfig on Apr 20, 2020 1:43:52 GMT
In truly adult civil conversations..it's impolite to say you are wrong..as the intent can be interpreted as a provocation..you don't know me at all to say you are wrong..you say That is wrong or that is incorrect and objectify the matter for intelligent disussion..For some reason You assume I was still engaged in a conversation with you..I wasn't ..and I have no intention of dignifying the product of faulty information and processing..worse you seem to be projecting or attempting to get a rise or something. At this point I believe nobody but the angels care what you think or care that faulty process you call thinking that makes you latch on to a state of denial concerning the origin of this virus because you believe its impossible to engineer. Whilst you are free to comment as we still have a 1st amendment..and this does fall under a General Discussion Category..do be mindful of your pejoratives..avoid becoming a total pest and undoing the house of cards you built for yourself and others to see. I may have presumed too much that Buzz is an adult..or someone trying too hard to impersonate one..If I was mistaken then that explains everything. Carry on
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Post by SysConfig on Apr 20, 2020 9:03:46 GMT
www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-outraged-after-largest-german-newspaper-accuses-beijing-starting-coronavirusChina Outraged After Largest German Newspaper Accuses Beijing Of "Exporting" Coronavirus Pandemic, Demands €149 Billion In DamagesProfile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden Sun, 04/19/2020 - 23:40 Let's see how the pro-China "fact checkers" blow up on this one. The editor-in-chief of Germany’s largest paper Bild on Thursday launched a full frontal attack on China’s communist president Xi Jinping for his regime’s failure to lying about the coronavirus outbreak and the massive human rights violations carried out by the Communist Party, and demanding no less that €149 billion in damages as a result of China's actions. In an article titled "What China Owes Us", Julian Reichelt, the prominent editor-in-chief of the Bild, wrote to Jinping that "Your embassy in Berlin has addressed me in an open letter because we asked in our newspaper Bild whether China should pay for the massive economic damage the coronavirus is inflicting worldwide." Addressing the Chinese president, the German editor wrote that, "You, your government and your scientists had to know long ago that coronavirus is highly infectious, but you left the world in the dark about it. Your top experts didn't respond when Western researchers asked to know what was going on in Wuhan. You were too proud and too nationalistic to tell the truth, which you felt was a national disgrace." Reichelt said that, "You rule by surveillance. You wouldn't be president without surveillance. You monitor everything, every citizen, but you refuse to monitor the diseased wet markets in your country. You shut down every newspaper and website that is critical of your rule, but not the stalls where bat soup is sold. You are not only monitoring your people, you are endangering them – and with them, the rest of the world." He continued with his bill of particulars, noting that “surveillance is a denial of freedom. And a nation that is not free, is not creative. A nation that is not innovative, does not invent anything. This is why you have made your country the world champion in intellectual property theft. “China enriches itself with the inventions of others, instead of inventing on its own,” Reichelt wrote. "The reason China does not innovate and invent is that you don't let the young people in your country think freely. China’s greatest export hit (that nobody wanted to have, but which has nevertheless gone around the world) is coronavirus.” We can't wait to read what Reichelt will have to say when it is confirmed that the "Wu Flu" escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a development we expect will take place any day. The best-selling paper Bild calculated prior to Reichelt's editorial that China owed Germany €149 billion for coronavirus damages, triggering the angry response from the Chinese embassy in Berlin. Bild said the compensation amounts to € €1,784 per person if Germany's GDP drops by 4.2 percent. The Bild article was titled: "What China owes us." In response, the spokeswoman for China’s embassy, Tao Lil, published an open letter to Bild in German on the embassy's website stating that, “I followed your reporting on the corona pandemic in general and China's alleged guilt in particular today. Apart from the fact that we consider it a pretty bad style to blame a country for a pandemic that is affecting the whole world and then to present an explicit account of alleged Chinese debts to Germany, the article ignores some essential facts."
She added that "We note that many countries now struggling with COVID-19 have had time to prepare for the cross-border spread of the pathogen after China reported its outbreak under IHR [World Health Organization] guidelines."And in taking a page out of every liberal textbook, everywhere, having no credible defense, China's embassy spokeswoman promptly changed subjects and said the article "stirs up xenophobia and nationalism."
So... accusing a government of a giant cover up - which we already know happened as China itself admitted when it silenced the Wuhan doctor who tried to bring the world's attention to the plague ravaging his town only to be arrested and forecefully silenced before dying from the coronavirus - is now nothing more than an act of racism. Got it. Perhaps the next time the IRS comes knocking and demanding a "fairer share" of one's income, the same "you are racist" excuse can be applied as well? Oh, and yes, the same line of questioning that got this site banned by the "ultra liberal" arbiters of all that is true and just in this world - and direct whose actions may have facilitates the deaths of thousands of people around the globe - was not lost on the Bild editor-in-chief, who cited last week's Washington Post article reporting that, "your laboratories in Wuhan have been researching coronaviruses in bats, but without maintaining the highest safety standards. Why are your toxic laboratories not as secure as your prisons for political prisoners? Would you like to explain this to the grieving widows, daughters, sons, husbands, parents of corona victims all over the world?" We couldn't have said it better ourselves, even if we did say it about 3 months earlier, for which we got the ultimate punishment from that paragon of free speech, Jack Dorsey. Reichelt concluded that, "In your country, your people are whispering about you. Your power is crumbling. You have created an inscrutable, non-transparent China. Before Corona, China was known as a surveillance state. Now, China is known as a surveillance state that infected the world with a deadly disease.That is your political legacy."
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Post by ZETAR on Apr 20, 2020 14:33:37 GMT
www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-outraged-after-largest-german-newspaper-accuses-beijing-starting-coronavirusChina Outraged After Largest German Newspaper Accuses Beijing Of "Exporting" Coronavirus Pandemic, Demands €149 Billion In DamagesProfile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden Sun, 04/19/2020 - 23:40 Let's see how the pro-China "fact checkers" blow up on this one. The editor-in-chief of Germany’s largest paper Bild on Thursday launched a full frontal attack on China’s communist president Xi Jinping for his regime’s failure to lying about the coronavirus outbreak and the massive human rights violations carried out by the Communist Party, and demanding no less that €149 billion in damages as a result of China's actions. In an article titled "What China Owes Us", Julian Reichelt, the prominent editor-in-chief of the Bild, wrote to Jinping that "Your embassy in Berlin has addressed me in an open letter because we asked in our newspaper Bild whether China should pay for the massive economic damage the coronavirus is inflicting worldwide." Addressing the Chinese president, the German editor wrote that, "You, your government and your scientists had to know long ago that coronavirus is highly infectious, but you left the world in the dark about it. Your top experts didn't respond when Western researchers asked to know what was going on in Wuhan. You were too proud and too nationalistic to tell the truth, which you felt was a national disgrace." Reichelt said that, "You rule by surveillance. You wouldn't be president without surveillance. You monitor everything, every citizen, but you refuse to monitor the diseased wet markets in your country. You shut down every newspaper and website that is critical of your rule, but not the stalls where bat soup is sold. You are not only monitoring your people, you are endangering them – and with them, the rest of the world." He continued with his bill of particulars, noting that “surveillance is a denial of freedom. And a nation that is not free, is not creative. A nation that is not innovative, does not invent anything. This is why you have made your country the world champion in intellectual property theft. “China enriches itself with the inventions of others, instead of inventing on its own,” Reichelt wrote. "The reason China does not innovate and invent is that you don't let the young people in your country think freely. China’s greatest export hit (that nobody wanted to have, but which has nevertheless gone around the world) is coronavirus.” We can't wait to read what Reichelt will have to say when it is confirmed that the "Wu Flu" escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a development we expect will take place any day. The best-selling paper Bild calculated prior to Reichelt's editorial that China owed Germany €149 billion for coronavirus damages, triggering the angry response from the Chinese embassy in Berlin. Bild said the compensation amounts to € €1,784 per person if Germany's GDP drops by 4.2 percent. The Bild article was titled: "What China owes us." In response, the spokeswoman for China’s embassy, Tao Lil, published an open letter to Bild in German on the embassy's website stating that, “I followed your reporting on the corona pandemic in general and China's alleged guilt in particular today. Apart from the fact that we consider it a pretty bad style to blame a country for a pandemic that is affecting the whole world and then to present an explicit account of alleged Chinese debts to Germany, the article ignores some essential facts."
She added that "We note that many countries now struggling with COVID-19 have had time to prepare for the cross-border spread of the pathogen after China reported its outbreak under IHR [World Health Organization] guidelines."And in taking a page out of every liberal textbook, everywhere, having no credible defense, China's embassy spokeswoman promptly changed subjects and said the article "stirs up xenophobia and nationalism."
So... accusing a government of a giant cover up - which we already know happened as China itself admitted when it silenced the Wuhan doctor who tried to bring the world's attention to the plague ravaging his town only to be arrested and forecefully silenced before dying from the coronavirus - is now nothing more than an act of racism. Got it. Perhaps the next time the IRS comes knocking and demanding a "fairer share" of one's income, the same "you are racist" excuse can be applied as well? Oh, and yes, the same line of questioning that got this site banned by the "ultra liberal" arbiters of all that is true and just in this world - and direct whose actions may have facilitates the deaths of thousands of people around the globe - was not lost on the Bild editor-in-chief, who cited last week's Washington Post article reporting that, "your laboratories in Wuhan have been researching coronaviruses in bats, but without maintaining the highest safety standards. Why are your toxic laboratories not as secure as your prisons for political prisoners? Would you like to explain this to the grieving widows, daughters, sons, husbands, parents of corona victims all over the world?" We couldn't have said it better ourselves, even if we did say it about 3 months earlier, for which we got the ultimate punishment from that paragon of free speech, Jack Dorsey. Reichelt concluded that, "In your country, your people are whispering about you. Your power is crumbling. You have created an inscrutable, non-transparent China. Before Corona, China was known as a surveillance state. Now, China is known as a surveillance state that infected the world with a deadly disease.That is your political legacy." EXCELLENT POST SYS...AND SOOOOOO IT BEGINS...GERMANY BLAMES...
ONE BY ONE...COUNTRY BY COUNTRY...NATION BY NATION...WILL EXPERIENCE ...“Stages of Anger”
LET'S ADD A DASH OF FOREKNOWLEDGE...AND A PINCH OF W.H.O.
The World Health Organization (WHO) praised Beijing’s response to the novel coronavirus in line with Chinese propagandists, at one point denying human-to-human transmission was taking place as the deadly and highly contagious disease spiraled out of control inside the communist country.
americantruthtoday.com/politics/2020/03/22/who-spread-false-chinese-government-propaganda-coronavirus-not-contagious-among-humans/
WHO Twitter messages from January and February show that the United Nations body was spreading Chinese propaganda. Health officials detected the first case of the coronavirus (COVID-19) on November 17 in Wuhan, China.
Communist officials in China hid the extent of the coronavirus outbreak during the early stages of the epidemic, jailing and silencing whistleblowers, a move that allowed the virus to gain a firm hold. The ruling communist party, however, has hailed the recent slowdown of the outbreak as a sign of the superiority of its authoritarian political system. A study published earlier this month by the University of Southampton, determined that China could have prevented 95 percent of the coronavirus infections plaguing the globe if Beijing had listened to the doctor whistleblowers in Wuhan
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Post by swamprat on Apr 20, 2020 15:26:02 GMT
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Post by nyx on Apr 20, 2020 15:46:38 GMT
On this coming Tuesday, the governor of South Carolina is opening his state for all things.
A lot of mayors are nervous about business opening up.
Like in Florida, people are expected to storm the beaches.
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Post by SysConfig on Apr 20, 2020 18:13:55 GMT
God Bless The Sovereign State of South Carolina! Oh I live there
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Post by nyx on Apr 20, 2020 19:33:48 GMT
SysConfig,
If you live in South Caroline,I hope you make it to the beach and go wild, wild, wild!
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Post by swamprat on Apr 20, 2020 20:04:28 GMT
Uh oh!Social distancing measures recommended until 2022 Two new studies shed light on the road ahead. Derek Beres
20 April, 2020
• Harvard researchers have recommended that intermittent social distancing measures should be in place until 2022.
• An observational study in Hong Kong found that social distancing measures have helped the nation avoid stricter lockdowns.
• America has a severe testing shortage that is delaying our ability to effectively measure the impact of COVID-19.
While the media spotlight over the last week has been on fringe groups protesting at state capitals, most of the American population is staying at home and respecting social distancing guidelines while outside. It's the primary reason we haven't had to endure previously forecasted numbers of emergency room cases and deaths. Health care workers on the front lines in major cities are overwhelmed as it is. Our duty is to not make their incredibly stressful jobs more demanding than they already are.
Social distancing is an important weapon for containing this virus, according to researchers at the WHO Collaborating Centre for Infectious Disease Epidemiology and Control. In a new observational study published in The Lancet, the Hong Kong-based team looked in their own backyard to see how their country was able to flatten the curve without requiring stricter stay-at-home orders.
Hong Kong, like South Korea and Singapore, instituted preventive measures immediately. These countries were testing citizens as soon as possible; they began requiring distancing and protective equipment when cases were first detected. Testing is key. As Cynthia Cox, the director of the Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker, told Vox:
"The testing failure is putting additional strain on our already challenged health system. The combination of all of these factors will make the US worse off than similar countries."
WHO researchers reviewed three telephone surveys between January 20 and March 13 to understand attitudinal changes as the disease progressed. They analyzed COVID-19 cases alongside influenza data and watched the reproduction number of coronavirus cases. And they discovered that a combination of behavioral changes, such as social distancing and wearing protective gear in public, border restrictions, and isolation of confirmed cases (and their contacts) helped to slow the spread.
"Our findings strongly suggest that social distancing and population behavioural changes—that have a social and economic impact that is less disruptive than total lockdown—can meaningfully control COVID-19."
The researchers warn that relaxed policies, which began in March, are likely to lead to an increase in cases. Tracing is an essential strategy if nations hope to avoid serious outbreaks. Interestingly, the team noticed that social distancing also reduced influenza transmissions, which is important given that, for vulnerable populations, hospital beds are being occupied by COVID-19 patients.
Hong Kong's example could help set a precedent for other nations. The researchers write that all of these considerations need to be in place. At the moment, there does not seem to be a singular silver bullet.
"Because a variety of measures were used simultaneously, we were not able to disentangle the specific effects of each one, although this may become possible in the future if some measures are strengthened or relaxed locally, or with use of cross-national or subnational comparisons of the differential application of these measures."
Meanwhile in America, officials are calling for seniors to sacrifice their lives for the economy, testing is woefully absent, and the president's sole focus is getting business going again, health consequences be damned. These are the exact opposite measures than those health experts are proposing.
A new modeling study from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health states that while a two or three-month distancing period flattens the curve, groups susceptible to COVID-19—people over 65 and those suffering from underlying conditions, as well as the obese—will continue to be at risk until effective treatments and, potentially, a vaccine are produced. They're recommending that we institute social distancing policies until 2022.
Aware of a contentious response to this recommendation, they note that this isn't about politics.
"The authors wrote that they're aware of the severe economic, social, and educational consequences of social distancing. They said their goal is not to advocate a particular policy but to note 'the potentially catastrophic burden on the healthcare system that is predicted if distancing is poorly effective and/or not sustained for long enough.'"
There is never a return to normal, for that supposes a societal baseline that is constant. We are moving somewhere else that will one day seem like the everyday, until it shifts again. We must take responsibility for how we transition and listen to the signal in all of this noise. For now, I only have one certainty: I'm not willing to sacrifice my parents for your portfolio.
Derek
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Post by nyx on Apr 20, 2020 20:12:19 GMT
SysConfig,
We are not too far behind.
Tennessee Governor Lee says stay at home ends May1st for Tennessee.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 21:44:23 GMT
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Post by ZETAR on Apr 20, 2020 22:19:56 GMT
Iranian ‘Prophetic Medicine’ Leader: Camel Urine Cures CoronavirusAn Iranian man who describes himself as an Islamic prophetic medicine healer has prescribed drinking camel urine as a treatment for the Chinese coronavirus, Radio Farda reported Monday.
In a video that has reportedly gone viral across social media, the Chairman of the Prophetic Medicine Society Medhi Sabili urged people to consume the urine when it is both “fresh and warm.”
WATCH VIDEO HERE: www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/04/20/iranian-prophetic-medicine-leader-camel-urine-cures-coronavirus/
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