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Post by swamprat on Jan 11, 2020 15:22:40 GMT
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Post by swamprat on Jan 12, 2020 0:10:50 GMT
The Dark Connection Between UFOs and Grisly Mutilations
One of the most shocking cases involved an Air Force sergeant allegedly abducted by a saucer-like aircraft.
Colin Bertram | January 10, 2020
The details are both grisly and strangely surgical: corpses found under the open sky with their eyes plucked out, tongues removed and private parts excised—all extracted with the utmost precision and leaving not a drop of blood.
Reports of such unexplained mutilations, carried out on both humans and animals, have baffled investigators for decades, leading to speculation about whether the perpetrators might be otherworldly beings conducting biological experiments on earth’s inhabitants. While scores of reports have emerged from U.S. western and midwestern states detailing mysterious bloodless animal mutilations, human cases have been far less common—and often much sketchier in their documentation.
The enigmatic ‘Project Grudge Report No. 13’
One of the most shocking cases, the Lovette-Cunningham incident, involves an American Air Force sergeant allegedly abducted by a saucer-like aircraft, after which his cleanly mutilated body was found in the New Mexico desert. In ufology circles, reports have circulated that the case was studied by Project Grudge, one of the earliest U.S. Air Force programs tasked with investigating sightings of unidentified flying objects in the years after World War II. (Project Grudge was a short-lived precursor to the better known Project Blue Book, which ran from 1951 to 1969, many documents from which are now declassified.) The result of the Air Force investigation into the purported abduction was allegedly a 600-page document labeled “Project Grudge Report 13.”
Problem is, no official information on Report 13 exists and the U.S. government denies its very existence, so its details are known only from second-hand sources who claim to have seen and analyzed the document. One account came from controversial conspiracy theorist William Cooper (1943–2001), who asserts he was tasked with analyzing an annotated version of Grudge Report 13 in the early 1970s. The other came from William English, a former Green Beret captain who says he too was asked to analyze the document, while assigned to a U.S. security service at a former Royal Air Force base in Chicksands, England.
English dictated two audio cassettes outlining what he remembered from Report 13, and according to Military Encounters With Extraterrestrials: The Real War of the Worlds by author Frank Joseph, English also participated in a 1991 Colorado radio broadcast where he discussed his findings. Cooper’s and English’s stories echo one another closely.
www.history.com/news/ufos-aliens-animal-human-mutilation-lovette-cunningham?fbclid=IwAR25SPtwt2ZgWzvxzqo1ZCjKy9lwPhzHjr9TbQy6U83lyY33Z2nBxqFbQFQ
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Post by mryelm on Jan 12, 2020 12:45:49 GMT
Hmmmm' ! I dunno'. The cattle mutilation's and worse human mutilation's angers me. Makes me want to lock and load...unless it really is an advance race of ET's! If that were the case I would L&L and then hide or acquire a far bigger gun than I now have....But back on topic...Why would an advanced race do such stupid, sicko stuff? Judging by the advanced state of our current medical tech like computer imaging and 3d printers making ears and soon probably complex organs why would ET need messy biological samples? While not outside the realm of possibility an loose nut pervert ET is to my way if thinking outside the realm of probability, almost. What a ET might not be able to replicate etc is the um' satisfaction of killing. Sick? Yes, but the thrill or lust is what motivates human serial killers to do the worst sort of things.
That said I think a more probable explanation is more earth bound. I think humans are to blame for the human and bovine killings, and the subsequent crimes may be copy cat killings. Those who do the killings and the murders would be classified as organized serial-predators. 'Organized' because the way the murders were conducted, meaning they seemed very, very premediated, that and the fact that all the murders met all the criteria for a 'organized' type murder (i.e. committed by organized serial predators). But still even that explanation has problems! There is a 800 lb gorilla whispering in my ear that I am wrong because the gorilla sez' no one has been caught doing one of these killings. I, err' the gorilla did not google the latter so he might be wrong about that. However, if no one has been caught in the act, or even been charged, maybe just maybe there is an perverted serial killing ET getting his or her jollies doing these horrific crimes! Now, if true that really scares me!
A web resource expanding on organized vs unorganized preds ;
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wicked-deeds/201806/organized-versus-disorganized-serial-predators |
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 12, 2020 14:53:37 GMT
Maybe they are mostly all like this. Not for jollies, but some more needed resource. Hemoglobin, T-cells etc.
One cow maybe supply a whole mothership. Tongues could be a delicacy. It would go far, cooked and cut up.
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Post by mryelm on Jan 13, 2020 2:37:31 GMT
Could be thelmadonna'. I never say never. Who knows what an ET would think or what their likes, dislikes, quirks and nuances are? Or even if they have those characteristics at all? Maybe they blindly act on instinct with no emotional constraints. In my earlier reply I should have posted a 'disclaimer' saying if ET has similar to human thought processes they might do the nasty things I listed (psychopath serial predators etc). That said I do anthropomorphize everything not human like automobiles, animals, plants, yes plants, and other things I become 'attached' to! I guess I do the same with aliens, even the psycho ETs killers from planet X.
I do have a difficult time accepting interstellar traveling ET's snacking on people and slicing up cows for experiments or resources. If they master faster than light or even near light speed velocities and build star ships and the related science and other processes that goes with them it seems they wouldn't be eating or using animal products. I really think if a highly advanced ET were anything remotely similar to humans they would be horrified to find us still eating our animal friends. These days I don't eat red meat, or pork because I made the mistake of visiting a slaughter house, a friend was an IT person at one. Man I felt so sorry for those animals. But it's like hunting. I have guns but I don't hunt and respect the rights of a hunter. If someone wants to eat meat I have no disrespect etc for them.. Btw, I have tried cow tongue, it's about the size of a pork tenderloin and tastes good like mild very tender roast beef. There isn't much there though! Hey, come to think about the aliens' leave most of the cow behind and only keep the ahhh' the....unappetizing parts, eyeballs etc. Hey, maybe that's why those ET dudes are so skinny! …
This reply has grown way too long and its getting weird…
C~ya'all', bye. |
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 13, 2020 7:03:47 GMT
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Post by mryelm on Jan 13, 2020 22:13:21 GMT
I checked out the web resource (wiki) you kindly posted. I didn't find any of the delicacies on the website appealing! The photos look like a screen shots from an unedited 'Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern'! Man, that guy would eat.... (better not say that!). The most unusual thing I have eaten was cow tongue. And it didn't taste bad, it was very good really! That said how can it be ok to eat steak etc. but wrong to eat weird organ etc. meat? Oops.... I am getting off topic! The answer is little difference save for personal and cultural preferences. That includes cannibalism! That may be why I don't like to eat red meat?
Any way thelmadonna like I said you might be right! With respect if we could find out the true answer by tomorrow I would give you, betting odds of 70/30! (If I lost I would pay you 700 bricks of gold pressed Latinum! You would only owe me 300 bricks if you lost! Seriously , I tend to agree with a lot of sci fi writers who say for a civilization to last long enough to build warp capable or faster than light spacecraft they would not be aggressive at all! aggression would be lost through evolution as would most vestiges of anger, flesh eating, and various forms of conquest etc. All that and more would disappear from the gene pool.
Yeah, their world would be incredibly advanced, peaceful and so nice that it would be terminally boring! |
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 13, 2020 23:21:08 GMT
The grey's follow orders, sometimes individual orders, sometimes group orders. These orders are given from higher levels. This to them is just a job. They dont have emotions like us.
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Post by nyx on Jan 14, 2020 3:02:28 GMT
There was an idea from the past that E.T. dissolved their food in hydrogen peroxide.
Then E.T. would put this solution on their skin to absorb the food values.
The E.T.’s that I ran into in my past we’re skinny, pasty, short, and child like.
The tallest were no more than 4 feet, and they were just as afraid of me as I was of them.
But they had a rod that fired a light beam that put me to sleep.
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Post by mryelm on Jan 14, 2020 6:00:49 GMT
The grey's follow orders, sometimes individual orders, sometimes group orders. These orders are given from higher levels. This to them is just a job. They dont have emotions like us. Do you mean UFOlogists' have a standard information resource that describe characteristics of the different races or species of ET? So they may be blindly following orders, like soldiers? |
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Post by mryelm on Jan 14, 2020 6:13:29 GMT
There was an idea from the past that E.T. dissolved their food in hydrogen peroxide. Then E.T. would put this solution on their skin to absorb the food values. The E.T.’s that I ran into in my past we’re skinny, pasty, short, and child like. The tallest were no more than 4 feet, and they were just as afraid of me as I was of them. But they had a rod that fired a light beam that put me to sleep. 
Man unless the hydrogen peroxide was far more pure than the store bought stuff it would take about a hundred years to dissolve a cow! Just making a funny my freiend. Really if HP is 70 or 80% or better it can be used for rocket fuel, and was highly corrosive.
I can't imagine what being abducted by a hostile species of ET would be like. For that matter even if they seemed semi nice dwarfs ET's kidnaped me it would be a horrible experience. As much as I want to take a trip to space I don't think I would accept a ride from even very friendly alien's! John Wayne Gacy acted friendly too! …..Lets not forget clowns, they are funny and most of the time seem harmless, except for the killer clowns from outer space!
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 14, 2020 9:36:30 GMT
I dont know I have never met a UFOlogist.
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Post by mryelm on Jan 14, 2020 16:12:09 GMT
Hi thelmadonna. Ok, up until a few years ago I'd never met a professional UFOlogist either. That changed one day while I was online looking for how to join MUFON. I stopped by a message forum and met a person who identified himself as a UFOlogist! (not sure of spelling of the title). That said until this morning I never thought to ask if there was a school etc that teaches about UFOs. I am interested in a credible, college level school that awards degrees. I guess accredited would be too much to ask eh? Anyway there is no time like the present so I mooned it! Ha ha! wrong visual! 'It' being how to become an UFOlogist !! I searched the web with the pale moon browser*).
Essentially the consensus was no formal schooling college level or otherwise exists for a UFOlogist degree or title. I would settle for a two year associates degree or even an serious online course! Anyway lmadonna, I pasted a couple of excerpts from the web a(below).
Judging by the number of people wanting to know how to become a professional 'UFOlogist' there may be enough interest to support a school. That is an uneducated guess of course.. Ummm'.... ahh', hmm', that leads to another problem! Where is the nearest teaching professor with a PhD or Masters in Ufology? Oh well, still anyone want to partner with me to develop an online course? Sounds like an opportunity!
FROM DA WEB;
(1)…. "Most of the 'famous' ufologist are classically trained in other areas. Physics, engineering, Journalism, and other areas are where a large chunk of them come from. "
(2.) To my knowledge, there is no 'school' that gives degrees in ufology, and you are a ufologist as soon as you consider yourself one.
So with a sad heart I decided to moon one more time with different key words...Then;
BREAKING NEWS! This just in! Just after mooning (with keywords) 'school', 'How to become an Ufologist', 'degree', for the third time I was about to close the window when this caught in the corner of my eye; "Two other online universities -- the Centre of Excellence in the U.K. and the IMHS Metaphysical Institute -- offer full degree programs in ufology. It's hard to imagine a better conversation-starter than, "I recently got my Ph.D. in Ufology with a specialization in abduction research." Cost for that "advanced" degree is under $2,000."
how do my replies get so long? Long posts don't get read ….
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 14, 2020 16:40:53 GMT
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Post by plutronus on Jan 15, 2020 3:59:34 GMT
Maybe they are mostly all like this. Not for jollies, but some more needed resource. Hemoglobin, T-cells etc. One cow maybe supply a whole mothership. Tongues could be a delicacy. It would go far, cooked and cut up.
thelmadonna,
>>Not for jollies, but some more needed resource. Hemoglobin, T-cells etc. One cow maybe supply a whole >>mothership. Tongues could be a delicacy. It would go far, cooked and cut up.
Cattle mutilations were/are one of the Sherman Ranch's (aka "SkinWalker ranch") main phenomena that frequently repeated. The Sherman Ranch was bought by billionaire Robert Bigelow owing to the repeatedly reported ET object exhibitions there. The ranch and its strange phenomenon was studied by NIDS scientists, Colm Kelleher, Eric Davis, and Dr. Onet (research vetinarian), as well as the less publically visible NEETS (Near Earth ET Studies) scientists that were retained by Robert Bigelow.
Colm Kelleher, Ph.D. Biochemistry, ex-Director of the NIDS (National Institute for Discovery Science), and an authentic cancer research scientist, wrote two very interesting and informative books, simultaneously, one, co-authored by George Knapp, "The Hunt for the SkinWalker", reveals a bit about NIDS scientist experiments on the ranch. In that book, Dr. Kelleher openly discusses the various exhibitions of the suspected ET activities and associated phenomena and Colm's other book, the "Brain Trust", does not squeak a peep about ET or the other phenomenon seen at the ranch, yet the entire book is basically a research study re; cattle mutilations. That book was on the NY Best Seller's list for 14 weeks and was the impetus for the public awareness re; 'mad cow' disease infection in the US Beef industry.
In the latter treatis, Colm Kelleher takes one on a scientific journey of early biological weapons development from the 1700 ~ 1900s, then makes connections between the long onset prion disease, mad-cow disease and Alzheimer's neurological diseases, and then alludes (provided one is aware of his ongoing ET studies) that the cattle mutillations aren't for resource acquisition but rather food chain monitoring. It is a scholarly read, which takes one down into the depths of alluded, suspected alien human manipulation.
Wanna a glimp-see of what ET scientists are thinking re; Human-ET relations?
plutronus Colm Keller's work history: |
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