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Post by vanis on Apr 25, 2018 20:59:46 GMT
Data: january 16 2018 Hour: 20:57:19 - 20:57:23 From: Folilco km 4,72 (east orientation photo)
Alto imágen: 480 Ancho imágen: 640 Tamaño archivo: 105 KB (sin flash) Balance blancos: automático Apertura: 2,8 Tiempo de exposición: 1/100 ISO 89Photo I and photo II (4 seconds later) I greet you from Santiago, Chile. I want to share with you my UFO report that I made this summer 2018, while I was in the south of Chile on a plot of my family, on the way to Lake Riñihue. I am a biologist at www.uach.cl (Universidad Austral de Chile, Valdivia) and an independent UFO researcher. I was taking many photographs inside the sector of Folilco (23 kilometers south of Lake Riñihue). Among them appeared a strange image on January 6, 2018. The code of the MUFON report is 90462. I translate my report and attach the direct link to the images, from my UFO web site: Here are some of our photos, recently captured on January 16th in the interior of the city of Los Lagos, inside the capital of the Region of Los Ríos, city of Valdivia (southern Chile).
It happened that taking a batch of photos to upload to the network of rural sector Folilco-Las Huellas, I took a photo twice by mistake, but without seeing the alleged object that can be seen on the right side. This happened at 20:57:19 seconds so I made a second take 4 seconds later.
My idea was to photograph a cloud at the bottom of the valley that crosses the Las Huellas sector, located 24 km from Los Lagos to Riñihue, entering by sector Folilco. Location south of Folilco km 4,720 m east facing towards the foothills, with the little sun that was behind me. Since I used a XVision table that has only a front camera, I did not see what I was photographing and because of my mistake I did not check the photos then until I was in a little plot that we have around there with my brothers. This was at 2 am and I was so surprised!
Of course, the first thing I did was to review the two photos, because I thought it could be a bird taken at a distance. But no, the two photos confirm the taking of an alleged object and now without further ado, I will show you the photos and the filters that I made with the tablet.
Regrettably I will be around for a long time the fact that if I had noticed then what was there, I would have stopped to take some videos with both the tablet and my cell phone ... I now understand many who have taken digital photos and UFOs that are usually make this reflection ... Because it is something that will weigh me for a long time ...
ovnis.forochile.org/t18-foto-ovni-tomada-en-enero-pasado-en-el-sur-de-chile-al-interior-de-la-ciudad-de-los-lagos
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Post by vanis on Apr 25, 2018 21:13:47 GMT
The other reports I have made are the following (nobody took pictures):
I Report Tentative date: around January 10, 2018;
Place: km 7 inside the town of Folilco in sector Las Huellas, 16 km from the city of Los Lagos (southern Chile, interior of the capital of the Region of the Rivers, Valdivia);
Time: 1 am
Observation: sighting of cloud with interior light, that from the south hill moved towards the north, over the property of the witnesses (Don Hector and his wife). He said he had not taken a video or photo, due to the darkness of that night and that he only had a cell phone for that.
II Report Tentative date: last week of January 2018;
Place: La Pellinada (road to Riñihue, after Folilco);
Hour: 23 hrs;
Witness: less than 30 years old and working in the sector, driving in a white jeep (absolutely unbelieving in these phenomena);
Observation: sighting of an object that emitted white light, that crosses over the vehicle in which the witness was circulating, at an indeterminate height without emitting any noise (he discarded it was a helicopter).
There are no records either.
III Registration Date: last week of January 2018;
Location: km 7-8 inside Folilco, sector Las Huellas;
Time: 21 hrs;
Witness: Fabian who works in a salmon farm inside the Quilquilco bridge (inside the Las Huellas sector);
Observation: upon returning from work before nightfall, observe a light stationed at low altitude which then takes movement to the north (towards the route to Lake Riñihue). There are no records either.
In total there are 7 UFO testimonials in the sector, 16 km from the city of Los Lagos, the most relevant of all. I'm still not going to tell anything about this, until I personally talk to one of the witnesses because I have the information, by a friend of Folilco's teacher who learned about it a while ago.
This happened about six months ago, where there would have been 6 witnesses in total. It is possible that there were images.
The summary of everything I have collected in terms of UFO cases, is that the sightings occur from dusk so what we lack, is a binocular with night vision and I am looking to get one.
I had a sighting on Thursday, March 15 at 1am, while returning to the small parcel that we have inside Folilco. It was clear without wind and without Luna. Looking to the north by a bright star at that time, I suddenly perceive dimly that an object passes under the star, as if it were a curtain and at a speed of about 50 km per hour. This star is at an angle of about 35º.
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Post by HAL on Apr 26, 2018 18:56:36 GMT
Hi vanis,
Good to have you here.
Referring to the two top pictures.
Am I correct in saying you did not actually see the object at the time ?
And if so you didn't observe it moving.
If you are talking about the grey elliptical object I would suggest it is a lenticular cloud. Behind it are other clouds that have a very similar shape but are not as clearly defined.
HAL
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Post by purr on Apr 26, 2018 20:02:16 GMT
Hi Vanis, welcome and thanks for your reporting and photographs. I spent some time looking at them and have a question. How near sunset / nightfall was this? Because I can see the lower half of the cloudformation already in shadow, below the horizon, yet the upper parts still catching full sunlight. The alleged UFO / flying disk is in the shadowy lower part of the clouds. I note you didn't see it (as possible flying object) with the naked eye. From the two photos it seems to move at the same speed as the shadowed part of the clouds around it. It could be an alien craft camouflaging itself as a cloud . Or a cloud driven by the wind, alongside a grouping of other clouds. In the latter case the disk or lens shape may identify it as a form of lens cloud, Altocumulus Lenticularis Duplicat(a/us)Similar to these: The top photo shows how part of a cloud (including one shaped like a lens/disk) may stand out due to deeper shadow (than clouds in bright sunshine). In my opinion the disk shape objects in your photos could be explained by unusual yet natural cloud formations. purr
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Post by purr on Apr 26, 2018 20:20:24 GMT
The other reports I have made are the following (nobody took pictures): I Report Tentative date: around January 10, 2018;
Place: km 7 inside the town of Folilco in sector Las Huellas, 16 km from the city of Los Lagos (southern Chile, interior of the capital of the Region of the Rivers, Valdivia);
Time: 1 am
Observation: sighting of cloud with interior light, that from the south hill moved towards the north, over the property of the witnesses (Don Hector and his wife). He said he had not taken a video or photo, due to the darkness of that night and that he only had a cell phone for that.
II Report Tentative date: last week of January 2018;
Place: La Pellinada (road to Riñihue, after Folilco);
Hour: 23 hrs;
Witness: less than 30 years old and working in the sector, driving in a white jeep (absolutely unbelieving in these phenomena);
Observation: sighting of an object that emitted white light, that crosses over the vehicle in which the witness was circulating, at an indeterminate height without emitting any noise (he discarded it was a helicopter).
There are no records either.
III Registration Date: last week of January 2018;
Location: km 7-8 inside Folilco, sector Las Huellas;
Time: 21 hrs;
Witness: Fabian who works in a salmon farm inside the Quilquilco bridge (inside the Las Huellas sector);
Observation: upon returning from work before nightfall, observe a light stationed at low altitude which then takes movement to the north (towards the route to Lake Riñihue). There are no records either.
In total there are 7 UFO testimonials in the sector, 16 km from the city of Los Lagos, the most relevant of all. I'm still not going to tell anything about this, until I personally talk to one of the witnesses because I have the information, by a friend of Folilco's teacher who learned about it a while ago.
This happened about six months ago, where there would have been 6 witnesses in total. It is possible that there were images.
The summary of everything I have collected in terms of UFO cases, is that the sightings occur from dusk so what we lack, is a binocular with night vision and I am looking to get one.
I had a sighting on Thursday, March 15 at 1am, while returning to the small parcel that we have inside Folilco. It was clear without wind and without Luna. Looking to the north by a bright star at that time, I suddenly perceive dimly that an object passes under the star, as if it were a curtain and at a speed of about 50 km per hour. This star is at an angle of about 35º.Very interesting reports, Vanis, especially this one: "sighting of cloud with interior light, that from the south hill moved towards the north, over the property of the witnesses (Don Hector and his wife)." - set at 1am that's unusual/out of the ordinary indeed. Thanks for the information! purr
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Post by HAL on Apr 26, 2018 21:09:31 GMT
I have wondered why we don't get reports from the Atacama Desert region of Chile. One would expect the high - tech astronomy equipment that is out there perched on top of a mountain to attract some attention from any visiting Aliens.
HAL
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Post by vanis on Apr 26, 2018 23:29:45 GMT
purr: These photos were taken at half an hour of sunset, on a placid afternoon without the presence of wind. I was looking at the landscape for 30 seconds, before deciding to take the photos and at no time I observed that lenticular cloud ...
I do not consider that the photo is categorized as a UFO photo, only I do not understand why I did not see that image, neither me nor my brother Carlos. He suggested that I take a picture, through the background of distant clouds but they did not turn out well in the photo.
Take advantage of commenting that the clouds on the volcanoes originate in gases that emanate from them and that by their density, they are stationed there above. I had an excellent photo with discoidal shape!
purr: Very interesting reports, Vanis, especially this one: "sighting of cloud with interior light, that from the south hill moved towards the north, over the property of the witnesses (Don Hector and his wife)." - set at 1am that's unusual/out of the ordinary indeed. Thanks for the information!
The most impressive thing for me was not the photos, but to see an object pass at 1 in the morning facing north, in a night without a moon just below a 30º angle star (March 15 at 1a).
I have visited your website for years so I thought, it's time to join my forum to contribute something and stop being just parasitizing it, hehehehe! Thanks for the welcome, I will provide you with other reports soon. Greetings from Santiago of Chile.
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Post by vanis on Apr 26, 2018 23:34:47 GMT
HAL
Your question is very good and I have an answer given by themselves, given that they have been questioned by that: "we usually have our lenses focused away in space".
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2018 1:52:17 GMT
Very interesting, and thanks for posting.
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Post by HAL on Apr 27, 2018 19:16:59 GMT
Vanis,
Thanks for the response.
But what I really meant was concerning sightings in the area by people out in the open, not viewing through telescopes.
HAL
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Post by vanis on Apr 28, 2018 0:00:20 GMT
OK, now I understand your point well because I did not talk in English a while ago. In the UFO phenomenon occurs that sightings require the observer, while in those areas the population density is very low. And in spite of that there are multiple testimonies, but it is not people who habituate to enter the network when it comes to rural areas. I have basic scientific training in meteorology, topography, geosciences and photogrammetry. That's because before studying a degree in biological sciences (mention of cellular and molecular biology), I studied forestry (unfinished studies). And since I am an amateur photographer, anything can happen to me when I go out onto the ground, less to overlook something that is in the sky or on the surface. I was even from mid-December of 2017 until the end of March, looking for a good UFO photo in that area where we have a farm with my two brothers, on the banks of the Quinchilca River. The curious thing about these photos is that in a radius of one kilometer towards the coast and towards the Andean foothills, it was where the sightings of the cloud with inner light occurred; of another light held in the sky and of the object that I appreciated at 1am in the morning. About 50 kms from there to the southeast is the Mocho-Choshuenco. Certainly to be really an UFO phenomenon of extraterrestrial type that was happening in summer, I would conclude that the Ets were monitoring the volcano. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vldQFaaTul4
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Post by HAL on Apr 28, 2018 19:36:37 GMT
Vanis, Don't worry, your English is good enough. We can work out what you mean if you hit a difficult subject. I understand that you are saying there are not very many people in the Atacama desert region. So not many people to see if any ufo appear. HAL
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Post by vanis on Apr 29, 2018 0:47:01 GMT
HAL, I think we have reached a limit of UFO field research ... I have read J.J. Benítez years ago and I caught the attention of his investigator approaches, to say on one occasion that if there was a sighting, a person who lives outside the city will tell you if there was wind, how was the Moon and if it was cloudy. While a witness of the city overlooks those details.
Then we could say that the peasant is better witness than the citizen connected to the internet in this era above all. But over time I realized the other part of this issue, when I went out to investigate some UFO: the farmer is going to tell you that he saw something related to his beliefs, while the UFO phenomenon option will be very low within your personal conviction It is a subject of your personal worldview as the sociologists say. Before going to refer have seen the Devil, that a UFO!
About J.J. Benítez and his research method, I think his best contribution is the concept of "elite witness": it is a person who has ascendancy in the area where he lives, being someone first and foremost honest and very cultured and therefore have a certain authority in your community. Clearly this does not mean that he is also wrong, in his assessment of a UFO phenomenon that he has experienced. But at least he will not be deliberately trying to deceive us with his story. Greetings from the Plaza de Armas of Santiago de Chile, Patricio Sepúlveda.
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Post by HAL on Apr 29, 2018 22:26:13 GMT
Vanis,
I am of the opinion that the internet has killed ufo investigation. It should be the most useful tool ever invented. Instant worldwide communication. But it is crawling with jokers and people who would try and fool you just for the fun of it. And if they keep on pushing out false reports then in the end no one knows what is real and what is not.
We have lots of witness reports from people who should be reliable, and in fact from people who are well practiced in observation. But there seems to be no way of following up on the sighting. The Stevensville affair is a very good example. Same for Eupan in Belgium.
All we can really do is look for signals in the noise. Search for patterns etc.
HAL
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Post by vanis on May 2, 2018 21:01:52 GMT
"Vanis, I am of the opinion that the internet has killed ufo investigation." It is another big issue, where my focus is that research has certainly collapsed as it has been done before the network: the UFO organization directed by a person and with certain themes as priorities (with field research included). But there is an answer to this huge amount of information, which is happening in other domains as well. As one former rector of the Universidad Austral de Chile said, "there is a lot of information but little understanding of it." The current answer I would say is to build networks of researchers. I give you an example: I opened a few years ago a Face group to document earthquakes in Chile, which is a very important issue in a country so seismic. I can tell you that we are close to having two thousand members in the group! With only 5% of those people committed to UFO research, plus a thematic monitoring strategy in specialized sites and current news, you can now constitute a non-centralized body that addresses UFO research "online". A case of collapse you can see right now, with the contactist theme that is putting on the program Welcome from channel13 of Chile Luciano Pardo. It would not matter so much that Chilean researcher Rodrigo Fuenzalida had an opinion about contactism (channeling). But it does not have it on the UFO video that it presented, since analyzing that requires time and human resources and in a traditional UFO organization such as AION www.aion.cl, for everything you have to hope to have it. But a UFO network of about 120 members could be much more effective, to give an opinion to the public of the channel in a couple of days! You in the USA are the ones who have best implemented UFO research networks, all over the world.
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