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Post by nyx on Mar 20, 2019 20:44:01 GMT
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Post by HAL on Mar 20, 2019 21:24:11 GMT
Maybe he is trying to make the Americans conclude that he is a complete nutter and thus evade any future extradition attempt.
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Post by nyx on Mar 20, 2019 22:12:46 GMT
You know HAL,
With today’s culture of everything being fake news today, I think if Gary did this same thing today, he would be laughed off the face of the earth.
Really, that is all one hears today “fake news” or Russia KGB is behind it, etc., etc.
This is bad for a true study of UFOs, who would take UFO seriously?
I wonder what Putin’s take on UFOs?
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Post by gus on Mar 21, 2019 2:47:42 GMT
Nyx thanks for sharing he's a hero of mine
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Post by HAL on Mar 21, 2019 18:43:15 GMT
The whole point about the 'fake news' idea is that if you keep having this thrown at you enough you begin to believe it. And then you have no idea what may or may not be real. It is Trump's favourite weapon.
It becomes 'nothing is real'. A rather nihilistic view.
No doubt you are aware of the saying 'those who the gods wish to destroy, they first ridicule'. It's a variation on this theme.
the problem with the ufo situation is that there really is no way of replicating what happens. Thus one has to consider every case or claim and decide for yourself if it is plausible.
HAL
P>s. McKinnon is not a hero of mine. I'd put him away for the rest of his life if it were up to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 22:53:34 GMT
The whole point about the 'fake news' idea is that if you keep having this thrown at you enough you begin to believe it. And then you have no idea what may or may not be real. It is Trump's favourite weapon. It becomes 'nothing is real'. A rather nihilistic view. No doubt you are aware of the saying 'those who the gods wish to destroy, they first ridicule'. It's a variation on this theme. the problem with the ufo situation is that there really is no way of replicating what happens. Thus one has to consider every case or claim and decide for yourself if it is plausible. HAL P>s. McKinnon is not a hero of mine. I'd put him away for the rest of his life if it were up to me. The whole point about the 'fake news' idea is that if you keep having this thrown at you enough you begin to believe it. And then you have no idea what may or may not be real. It is Trump's favourite weapon.
You have your cause and effect wrong Hal..Trump didn't manufacture the Russian Hoax and all the investigations that flowed from it. Thats #1
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It is Trump's favourite weapon
You have your cause and effect incorrect again
Actually its the US-and UK deep states favourite weapon Lonnnnng before Trump..and that was exposed just recently on wikileaks..
and who might this scoundrel be and who was he working for and who works for him?
And even if Gary is a nut..a scared nut..he managed to crack a far bigger and mad Nut's secrets..and demonstrated how you don't need a fancy nutcracker to open it. He managed to see other nutters inside that big shell looking along shopping as well..and they for sure weren't looking for UFOs.. I would venture the same that you could do it from your cave and because of your skills..not raise any alarms
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Post by swamprat on Mar 26, 2019 15:47:33 GMT
Sent out by Filer's Files this week:
Special Projects
Solar Warden – The Secret Space Program UK News Darren Perks reports since 1980, a secret space fleet code named ‘Solar Warden’ has been in operation unknown to the public… Is this nonsense, is it a conspiracy or is it simply so sensitive that it will cause uproar around the world? These are my own words after conducting research into the secret program. While conducting an FOI (freedom of information) request with the DOD (department of defense), I had a very unexpected response by email from them which read:
“About an hour ago I spoke to a NASA rep who confirmed this was their program and that it was terminated by the President. He also informed me that it was not a joint program with the DOD. The NASA rep informed me that you should be directed to the Johnson Space Center FOIA Manager.
I have run your request through one of our space-related directorates and I’m waiting on one other division with the Command to respond back to me. I will contact you once I have a response from the other division. Did NASA refer you to us?”
The program not only operates classified under the US Government but also under the United Nations authority. So you might be wondering, how do I know this information?
Well there are a few people and many others that have tried hard to find out the truth, and have succeeded by leaked information or simply asking questions and have government departments slip up and give away information freely, just like what happened when Darren Perks asked the DOD. One notable contributor is Gary Mckinnon.
When Gary McKinnon hacked into U.S. Space Command computers several years ago and learned of the existence of “non-terrestrial officers” and “fleet-to-fleet transfers” and a secret program called “Solar Warden”, he was charged by the Bush Justice Department with having committed “the biggest military computer hack of all time”, and stood to face prison time of up to 70 years after extradition from UK. But trying earnest McKinnon in open court would involve his testifying to the above classified facts, and his attorney would be able to subpoena government officers to testify under oath about the Navy’s Space Fleet. To date the UK has refused to extradite McKinnon
McKinnon also found out about the ships or craft within Solar Warden. It is said that there are about eight cigar-shaped Motherships (each longer than two football fields end-to-end) and 43 small “scout ships. The Solar Warden Space Fleet operates under the US Naval Network and Space Operations Command (NNSOC) [formerly Naval Space Command]. There are approximately 300 personnel involved at that facility, with the figure rising.
Solar Warden is said to be made up from U.S. aerospace Black Projects contractors, but with some contributions of parts and systems by Canada, United Kingdom, Italy, Austria, Russia, and Australia. It is also said that the program is tested and operated from secret military bases such as Area 51 in Nevada, USA. Solar Warden”
We have a space fleet, which is code named; ‘Solar Warden.’ There were, as of 2005, eight ships, an equivalent to aircraft carriers and forty-three ‘protectors,’ which are space planes. One was lost recently to an accident in Mars’ orbit while it was attempting to re-supply the multinational colony within Mars. This base was established in 1964 by American and Soviet teamwork. Not everything is, as it seems.”
“We have visited all the planets in our solar system, at a distance of course, except Mercury. We have landed on Pluto and a few moons. These ships contain personnel from many countries and have sworn an oath to the World Government. The technology came from back engineering alien-disc wreckage and at times with alien assistance.”
So should we just write this off as utter nonsense?
No we shouldn’t and as time goes on the truth will slowly come out. Many people around the world are now witnessing craft moving around in the skies and sub space that completely defy gravity. Whether they are part of the Solar Warden secret program, military experimental aircraft or not, thousands of people know what they see.
In my view is very real and a very strong possibility. So no, I don’t think we should rule it out as complete nonsense. Yes, it’s a conspiracy because of all the hype and controversy surrounding the facts and information about the program.
Sensitive is an understatement. This program would change the world and our views on space exploration and travel, so no wonder that it would be kept a big ‘secret’.We should all keep it in the back of our minds… for now at least!
Thanks to Darren Perk’s investigation work here: www.ufoshropshire.co.uk
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Post by HAL on Mar 27, 2019 21:57:03 GMT
1 B.C. Jesus is Born (NO YEAR ZERO)
So Jesus was born one year before he was born ? Clever trick.
Assuming that BC stands for Before Christ, which would read as before Christ's birth.
But you are correct in one thing. The Arabs, for instance, do not have a year zero. They look upon your first year of life as year one. We refer to this period of life by the months you have been alive and do not consider a child to be One until he/she has passed 12 month.
And it an have consequences.
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