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Post by swamprat on Mar 6, 2019 16:28:46 GMT
Betelgeuse
Betelgeuse is, on average, the ninth-brightest star in the night sky and second-brightest in the constellation of Orion. It is a distinctly reddish, semi-regular variable star whose apparent magnitude varies between 0.0 and 1.3, the widest range of any first-magnitude star. Betelgeuse is one of three stars that make up the Winter Triangle asterism, and it marks the center of the Winter Hexagon. If the human eye could view all wavelengths of radiation, Betelgeuse would be the brightest star in the night sky.
Classified as a red supergiant of spectral type M1-2, the star is one of the largest stars visible to the naked eye. If Betelgeuse were at the center of the Solar System, its surface would extend past the asteroid belt, completely engulfing the orbits of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and possibly Jupiter. However, there are several other red supergiants in the Milky Way that could be larger, such as Mu Cephei and VY Canis Majoris.
Calculations of its mass range from slightly under ten to a little over twenty times that of the Sun. It is calculated to be 640 light-years away, yielding an absolute magnitude of about −6. Less than 10 million years old, Betelgeuse has evolved rapidly because of its high mass. Having been ejected from its birthplace in the Orion OB1 Association—which includes the stars in Orion's Belt—this runaway star has been observed moving through the interstellar medium at a speed of 30 km/s, creating a bow shock over four light-years wide. Betelgeuse is in a late stage of stellar evolution, and it is expected to explode as a supernova within the next million years.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse
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Post by HAL on Mar 6, 2019 22:33:18 GMT
.. moving through the interstellar medium at a speed of 30 km/s, creating a bow shock over four light-years wide...
Often wondered about that. A shock wave in a vacuum.
HAL
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Post by HAL on Jun 12, 2019 15:43:32 GMT
Wake up mods.
Prednisone is a medication.
This is spam.
HAL.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 16:25:05 GMT
.. moving through the interstellar medium at a speed of 30 km/s, creating a bow shock over four light-years wide... Often wondered about that. A shock wave in a vacuum. HAL I think maybe gravitational wave Hal? Dunno..but lets say through a debris field..I can visualize something like that..billiard ball effect.. Whut?! Prednisone isnt a a star?
Hehe..on the spam..I wonder how they made it past the visual puzzle test so you can post as a guest?
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Post by WingsofCrystal on Jun 12, 2019 23:08:30 GMT
Wake up mods. Prednisone is a medication. This is spam. HAL. Thanks HAL and Swamprat. Crystal
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Post by HAL on Jun 13, 2019 19:17:10 GMT
Crystal, My local cafe has started selling spam. Sort of a retro thing. But why should I buy it when I can get it for free here ? HAL
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Post by WingsofCrystal on Jun 13, 2019 23:09:21 GMT
Crystal, My local cafe has started selling spam. Sort of a retro thing. But why should I buy it when I can get it for free here ? HAL Ummmmmmmmm! Yummm!!!
Crystal
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Post by thelmadonna on Jun 13, 2019 23:25:29 GMT
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Post by nyx on Jun 14, 2019 0:27:23 GMT
During WWII, meat and toilet paper was in short supply in Hawaii.
Spam, full of nitrates, did not spoil and became a favorite for the people of Hawaii.
Think about it, the population of Hawaii today at 1.4 million eat 7 million cans of spam a year.
Think about it!
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Post by HAL on Jun 17, 2019 18:48:17 GMT
It shows in the shape of the average Hawaiian.
Just wondering what all those nitrates do to the heart.
My favourite of the heart stopping processed meats is the German Frikadellen.
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Post by drwu on Jun 17, 2019 19:04:15 GMT
heh...Spam pan fried goes great with eggs and toast.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 7:12:06 GMT
It sure has dimmed. Orion doesn't look the same.
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Post by swamprat on Dec 29, 2019 14:51:01 GMT
It sure has dimmed. Orion doesn't look the same. Yeah, there is even speculation now that it might go super nova.
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Post by HAL on Jan 1, 2020 21:39:36 GMT
At 642.5 Light Years away, maybe it already has. We will never know.
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Post by swamprat on Jan 3, 2020 18:19:02 GMT
Will Bright Star Betelgeuse Finally Explode? A Look at the Dimming Red Giant in Orion's Shoulder By Chelsea Gohd | 1/3/2020
It can't hurt to look up at the night sky just in case.
One of the brightest stars in the sky has been dimming. But, while it might be signaling that it's ready to explode, it's probably just fading because of strange, stellar physics.
Betelgeuse, a reddish star that's one of the brightest in the night sky, has been noticeably "fainting," or getting dimmer. The approximately 8.5 million-year-old star, which is part of the Orion constellation, has been one of the most recognizable stars in the sky because of its brightness and coloration. But this recent, dramatic fading has prompted scientists to suggest that the star might be entering a pre-supernova phase, dimming before it collapses and "dies" in a fiery supernova explosion.
If the star does become a supernova, Betelgeuse would likely be as bright as, or even brighter than the moon for weeks or even more.
At 642.5 light-years from Earth, it would be the closest supernova observed and recorded by humans (closer than the Crab Nebula, which is 6,523 light-years from Earth and is the result of a supernova reported to have taken place in A.D.1054). This also means that, if we see Betelgeuse explode tonight, the supernova really took place over 600 years ago, we're only seeing it now.
"It'd be brilliant," the star would be so bright that it would make it difficult to see other stars near it," Edward Guinan, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at Villanova University who reported the dimming in an Astronomer's Telegram, told Space.com. "It would be the brightest supernova ever observed in our galaxy."
But … will we really see Betelgeuse explode?
A massive, dimming star
It's not surprising that the extremely massive star (which is likely about 20 times the mass of the sun) has been dimming, because it's a variable star — meaning its brightness naturally shifts, something that scientists have observed for decades. The star has been classified a red supergiant star because of its size. However, with this recent dimming, the star's brightness "kept going down beyond the limits that we [scientists] ever saw it … it went outside of its usual parameter or comfort zone," Guinan said.
"It's dimming a lot more than we've seen," Sarafina Nance, an astronomy graduate student who studies Betelgeuse and stellar explosions at UC Berkeley, told Space.com. But, "does that dimming foretell an explosion? We know massive stars like Betelgeuse will explode as supernova. The question is, when?"
"There really haven't been close observations of them [supernovae] before they go off," Guinan said. He explained that, while some think that there wouldn't be any visible, major changes in the star until just hours before it blows up, others think that it would start to dim about a year before exploding. "There's no true consensus."
While it's possible that the star could explode anytime between now and 100,000 years from now, this dimming might not actually be a sign that it's about to blow, both Nance and Guinan said.
A false alarm?
While he acknowledges that it could explode soon and this dimming could be a sign that that explosion may happen relatively soon, "I believe it isn't going to blow up now," Guinan said. "I hope it does, but my bet is that it's not going to, it's gonna come back up [get brighter] again."
Nance admits that "we could absolutely be wrong," she said, referring to her theory that the dimming is not a sign that the star is about to explode. That said, "I do think that this is more indicative of really interesting physics that's going on with the star rather than an imminent explosion."
"If it does explode and we're wrong, awesome — I would love to be wrong, I would love to see that," Nance said.
While it would be pretty amazing to witness the ultrabright transformation of such an enormous and close star into a supernova, Guinan said, it seems more likely that this dimming does not indicate a pre-supernova phase and can be explained in another way.
According to Nance, while no one is exactly sure why this stellar fainting is happening, it could be caused by instabilities within Betelgeuse. She explained that different parts of stars can have different densities, and this density instability can cause energy to rise and fall within a star, moving energy from its inside to its outside. This, in turn, and can cause changes in brightness, cause the star to get bigger, to contract and much more.
Nance added that this extreme dip in brightness could also be attributed to magnetic activity on the star, but it is difficult to model that activity through simulations, so they do not yet know if that is a definite factor. She even added that it's possible that matter ejected from the star is creating "a sort of dust fog" that's currently obscuring and "dimming" the star.
The likely lack of a nearby explosion might make this star seem less interesting, but Nance thinks just the opposite. "I think that this is really interesting to watch and really interesting from a physics perspective of trying to better understand how massive stars experience periods of variability," she said.
You should still look up!
Now, while both Nance and Guinan think that it's most likely that Betelgeuse is just displaying a dimmer appearance because of some interesting stellar physics, they also agree that an explosion in our lifetime is still possible, and it's worth it to look up and look for the dimming star in the night sky.
While "I don't think it's going to explode anytime soon," Nance said, "I'll keep my eye on it, just in case."
"We don't know what's going to happen. There are absolutely limits to our models," she added. "I'm gonna look up at the night sky and check that it's still there every time I go outside."
Even if it is in a pre-explosion phase, it's exciting to watch the star now as it dims. It's "kind of neat to see astrophysics or astronomy and stellar evolution in action," Guinan said. These "changes are usually so slow that you can't observe them."
www.space.com/dimming-star-betelgeuse-red-giant-could-explode-supernova.html
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