Post by bonehead on Dec 1, 2018 18:42:36 GMT
Well, it looks like James Carrion has finally "published" his magnum opus concerning Roswell: The Roswell Deception.
www.theufochronicles.com/2018/11/the-roswell-deception.html
No I have not read it. But the title is certainly appropriate, even if not in the way Carrion intended it. At over 500 pages, I would have to have a substantial immunity to BS to get through it. I have seen some folks that think there is there there. But having read his previous iterations of the story, I am not convinced. The story is interesting in some ways but as it pertains to Roswell, no there there me thinks. Carrion's story is just as preposterous as the one produced by Nick Redfern many years back (mutant Japanese prisoners crashing from experimental Nazi aircraft). These theories fail as possible solutions for the same reasons that Phillip Klass's "explanations" never passed the smell test: they gloss over the actual witness reports to suggest that the witnesses were duped, motivated hoaxers or just not smart enough to know what it is they saw.
Of course, this illustrates the overriding UFO conundrum: there is no compelling material evidence for any of these things. And, as Stan Friedman was always quick to point out, "lack of evidence is not evidence of lack". Without material evidence, all we have is the witness reports. A responsible researcher can only use the witness stories as offered. There is nothing else, unless the researcher chooses to confabulate their own story. That is what Redfern and Carrion did. To get to either of their conclusions you have to discount large swaths of witness testimony and fill in the blanks with manufactured fictions.
Then there is this:
mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/12/bob-lazar-film-presents-the-man-behind-the-myth-of-area-51-exclusive-interview-with-director/
As stated in the story above, Bob Lazar has gotten a lot of grief from the UFO community over the years. As one that has heard directly from the man himself and seen one of his talks, I was always impressed by the fact that he seemed sincere and never cared whether people believed his story or not. I was also impressed by the fact that somebody was trying to shut him up and there were multiple witnesses to many of these attempts at the time (John Lear and George Knapp both witnessed these strange encounters.)
Lazar has never changed or embellished his story. It is the same now as it was in 1989. And here is an interesting little tidbit that seems to confirm the nature of Roswell and the broad strokes of Lazar's story as well:
https://www.ufoexplorations.com
I saw these stories on the same day and I was taken by the striking differences between them. I know many do not agree with my take. But I find the last two stories to be compelling in a way that the first two can never be. Take everything with a grain of salt. But when people are just making stuff up - make that a bucket of salt. Maybe that way you can bury the sucker and save the rest of us from wasting our time....
Bonehead
www.theufochronicles.com/2018/11/the-roswell-deception.html
No I have not read it. But the title is certainly appropriate, even if not in the way Carrion intended it. At over 500 pages, I would have to have a substantial immunity to BS to get through it. I have seen some folks that think there is there there. But having read his previous iterations of the story, I am not convinced. The story is interesting in some ways but as it pertains to Roswell, no there there me thinks. Carrion's story is just as preposterous as the one produced by Nick Redfern many years back (mutant Japanese prisoners crashing from experimental Nazi aircraft). These theories fail as possible solutions for the same reasons that Phillip Klass's "explanations" never passed the smell test: they gloss over the actual witness reports to suggest that the witnesses were duped, motivated hoaxers or just not smart enough to know what it is they saw.
Of course, this illustrates the overriding UFO conundrum: there is no compelling material evidence for any of these things. And, as Stan Friedman was always quick to point out, "lack of evidence is not evidence of lack". Without material evidence, all we have is the witness reports. A responsible researcher can only use the witness stories as offered. There is nothing else, unless the researcher chooses to confabulate their own story. That is what Redfern and Carrion did. To get to either of their conclusions you have to discount large swaths of witness testimony and fill in the blanks with manufactured fictions.
Then there is this:
mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/12/bob-lazar-film-presents-the-man-behind-the-myth-of-area-51-exclusive-interview-with-director/
As stated in the story above, Bob Lazar has gotten a lot of grief from the UFO community over the years. As one that has heard directly from the man himself and seen one of his talks, I was always impressed by the fact that he seemed sincere and never cared whether people believed his story or not. I was also impressed by the fact that somebody was trying to shut him up and there were multiple witnesses to many of these attempts at the time (John Lear and George Knapp both witnessed these strange encounters.)
Lazar has never changed or embellished his story. It is the same now as it was in 1989. And here is an interesting little tidbit that seems to confirm the nature of Roswell and the broad strokes of Lazar's story as well:
https://www.ufoexplorations.com
I saw these stories on the same day and I was taken by the striking differences between them. I know many do not agree with my take. But I find the last two stories to be compelling in a way that the first two can never be. Take everything with a grain of salt. But when people are just making stuff up - make that a bucket of salt. Maybe that way you can bury the sucker and save the rest of us from wasting our time....
Bonehead