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Post by john60 on Nov 15, 2018 12:24:45 GMT
For 20 years i believed in alien life on other planets,i witnessed a UFO myself hovering over a chemical plant in 1999 and went to a talk by Col. Holt about his UFO experience in Suffolk.I am also a christian believer for the same period & have had plenty experience of the Holy Spirit in my life and believe in the appiritions of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Medjorgorje etc "The Father has placed me on this mission of being a Mediatrix between God & man".
She appeared to the visionary Veronica at Bayside USA between 1970-1994 and among subjects covered were UFO's. A couple of quotes "UFO's as you call them are used by SATAN & other demons from hell as transports to confuse & confound mankind into thinking there is alien life in the universe the only creation of the Father has been given in the book of love & life" (bible).
There were many miracles performed there & other signs of the divine presence at the site.
We are now living through the Book Of Revelations, these are the end times, "in this final battle because of the sins of mankind there are many agents of hell now loose on the earth". There is our natural world and the supernatural Heaven, Hell & Purgatory.
Satan knows his time is now short and so when the christian church is RAPTURED which many now believe will be within the next 3/5 years, news medias will report to those left behind that a mass UFO abduction has occured to explain the disapearance of these people,covering up the Divine Act from you.And as in surveys at least half those surveyed believe in alien life, abductions etc thanks to the UFO phenomenon most will probably accept this explanation.
This is why for christians prayer/fasting should be a daily habit as it reduces his influence both in the church & world.
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Post by HAL on Nov 15, 2018 16:46:54 GMT
..This is why for christians prayer/fasting should be a daily habit as it reduces his influence both in the church & world...
Over the last week 50+ people have been burned to death trying to escape forest fires. No doubt many of them prayed for this not to happen.
Fat lot of good it did them.
When are you people going to see all this religious stuff for what it is.
CRAP.
HAL.
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Post by moksha on Nov 15, 2018 19:06:44 GMT
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Post by john60 on Nov 16, 2018 12:19:34 GMT
Yes natural disasters are tragedies, but there are hundreds of millions of us practicing christians around the world. Thats because there is substance behind it, many of these people are well educated, wordly wise & don't believe in silly superstitions. As Bishop Temple wants commented "every time i prayer, coincidences happen".
In the seer Wendy Alecs book Satan & his angels rebel against the God of the bible when he creates this inferior being called man, in his own image, he swore before being caste out that both God & humankind would forever be his adversary. He especially hates Gods convenant people the Jews/Christians, thats why he tried to have all the Jews destroyed in Hitlers death camps & christianity is the most persecuted faith in the world. In the 1967 war Israel against the odds defeated the arab armies against them in only 6 days (Genesis, he took 6 days to create the earth & rested on the 7th).
A couple of prophesies to look out for before the Rapture. Many scholars believe Ezekiel 38/39 tells of when the armies of Russia, Iran & Turkey mass on the mountains above Israel and a huge earthquake in the area decimates their armies. From Bayside, men with beards will attack the Vatican & the Pope will have to flee Rome.
Satan & his demons are supernatural beings who hate the human race & want to see the destruction of the soul in Hell, the time is short now to decide between your maker the God of the Bible who loves you or SATAN who hates humanity.
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Post by HAL on Nov 16, 2018 15:13:31 GMT
Your choice john60.
And believe what ever you want.
In the end you will die just as the rest of us will die.
I could tear every single aspect of what you last posted to pieces; but it would be a waste of both our time.
please do no try to bring religious argument onto the site. Save it for the appropriate place.
No hard feelings toward you.
HAL.
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Post by thelmadonna on Nov 16, 2018 17:07:31 GMT
Your choice john60. And believe what ever you want. Ditto<span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I could tear every single aspect of what you last posted to pieces; but it would be a waste of both our time.</span>
please do no try to bring religious argument onto the site. Save it for the appropriate place. No hard feelings toward you. HAL. I will go even further. Your kind, you know the religious kind, have been causing wars for thousands of years. Many of your creed have super-ego's, who think you have all the answers and you know nothing! |
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Post by HAL on Nov 16, 2018 17:30:24 GMT
Thelma', Easy tiger.. Who knows, john60 may be right. I don't think he is, but it's down to him. You are right about the wars though. But that is all a power game anyway. Someone will always find an excuse to attack the others. HAL  |
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Post by john60 on Nov 19, 2018 14:28:00 GMT
Time will tell, & as I believe the RAPTURE will happen within the next 3 years we won't have long to wait. Two prophesies to look out for Ezekiel 38/39, many believe it tells when the armies of Russia, Iran & Turkey mass on the mountains above Israel & an earthquake decimates there armies, & men with beards attack the Vatican & the Pope has to flee Rome. I believe that UFO's are supernatural & from hell, you don't, that's okay with me, remember there are many people around the world who don't enjoy the freedom of expression that we do.
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Post by thelmadonna on Nov 19, 2018 14:49:56 GMT
Time will tell, & as I believe the RAPTURE will happen within the next 3 years we won't have long to wait. Two prophesies to look out for Ezekiel 38/39, many believe it tells when the armies of Russia, Iran & Turkey mass on the mountains above Israel & an earthquake decimates there armies, & men with beards attack the Vatican & the Pope has to flee Rome. I believe that UFO's are supernatural & from hell, you don't, that's okay with me, remember there are many people around the world who don't enjoy the freedom of expression that we do. Describe to me the physical attributes of your RAPTURE. What will it look like? What will it sound like? What will trigger it? |
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Post by HAL on Nov 19, 2018 20:58:34 GMT
John60,
..remember there are many people around the world who don't enjoy the freedom of expression that we do. ..
Quite true. But the question is, if they did, what would they say ?
What percentage would say 'We have been saying this stuff for years because our lives depended upon saying it. You surely didn't think for even a minute we actually believe it ?'.
HAL.
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Post by john60 on Nov 21, 2018 13:45:09 GMT
All I know is what the bible says Matthew24 36 under the heading The Day & Hour Unknown it just says 2 will be working in a field one will be taken etc .I believe after the pope flees Rome after I assume the ISIS attack, there will come a world wide supernatural warning to each individual from God like an internal audit of their lives to show them he knows everything, please see the description of this on the Bayside shrine website under the heading Directives, the UFO stuff is on there too. The Rapture will come soon after the Warning. I do believe many eyes will be opened when the above prophesies are fulfilled.
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Post by thelmadonna on Nov 21, 2018 15:30:46 GMT
All I know is what the bible says Matthew24 36 under the heading The Day & Hour Unknown it just says 2 will be working in a field one will be taken etc .I believe after the pope flees Rome after I assume the ISIS attack, , please see the description of this on the Bayside shrine website under the heading Directives, the UFO stuff is on there too. The Rapture will come soon after the Warning. I do believe many eyes will be opened when the above prophesies are fulfilled. I have no doubt the rapture will happen, This wont happen, neither will your taking of the Vatican, a city within a city, with a highly weaponized army, with a network of underground tunnels that travel for miles. There is also the fact that you are quoting from a book that wasn't written till 300/500 yrs after the events.Ever heard of Chinese whispers? I will leave you with one piece of advice, if the end comes and there is a rapture and you choose to go, make your way to an elevated open space. Good luck on your travels! |
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Post by swamprat on Nov 21, 2018 19:58:02 GMT
 Scientists claim the Bible is written in code that predicts future events
The controversy around the Torah codes gets a new life.
Paul Ratner
19 November, 2018
• Mathematicians claim to see a predictive pattern in the ancient Torah texts.
• The code is revealed by a method found with special computer software.
• Some events described by reading the code took place after the code was written.
Searching for patterns is how we make sense of the world. We look for meaning in the often-overwhelming chaos by making connections between symbols and events. Some times these are meaningful discoveries, resulting in good science and breakthrough insights. Other times, these patterns may lead nowhere but still help us focus energies on what's important.
One intriguing source of patterns that has emerged thanks to our development of computers is the Bible. Among humanity's oldest and arguably most influential pieces of writing, the Bible has been studied and analyzed phrase by phrase by countless scholars and devotees. But what computers have allowed us to do, thanks to the work of Israeli mathematicians, is to see that the ancient text may be not only an intricately-weaved collection of spiritual stories and teachings but a code that speaks to the inner workings of history.
"The Bible Code," a 1997's book by the reporter Michael Drosnin popularized the idea. His book claimed to use the earliest parts of the Bible to predict the assassination of the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, the Gulf war, and comet collisions. It also seemed to have information about the Holocaust, various other assassinations like those of JFK and his brother Robert. It similarly suggested a nuclear war was looming – a theme the author explored in subsequent books of the "Bible Code" series.
The inspiration for Drosnin's book came from the 1994 paper "Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis," published in the journal Statistical Science by mathematicians Doron Witztum, Eliyahu Rips and Yoav Rosenberg. They presented statistical evidence that information about the lives of famous rabbis was encoded in the Hebrew text of the Book of Genesis, hundreds of years before those rabbis lived.
Dr. Eliyahu Rips is one of the world's leading experts on group theory and is the scientist who got most closely associated with the "Bible Code" hypothesis, even though the software used to implement the word search was designed by both Rips and Witztum.
Rips later distanced himself from Drosnin's book. In a 1997 statement on the matter, he pointed out that he didn't make or support some of the specific predictions Drosnin claimed. Nonetheless, Rips wrote quite clearly that "the only conclusion that can be drawn from the scientific research regarding the Torah codes is that they exist and that they are not a mere coincidence."
The method used by the scientists to arrive at their conclusions is the Equidistant Letter Sequence (ELS). To get a word with some meaning, this method calls you to pick a starting point in a text and a skip number. And then, start selecting letters while skipping the same number of spaces every time (pretty much in any direction). If you're lucky, a sensible word will be spelled out. This method works well if letters are arranged in an array, like this one –:
The Bible Code made a recent re-appearance in the public consciousness thanks to the work of author and fourth-generation antiques expert Timothy Smith. His 2017 book "The Chamberlain Key" describes how following 25 years of research, he unlocked a "God code" in the Bible. He calls his book "the Da Vinci Code on steroids, but it's true."
Smith's decoding work is based on his own ancient copy of the Bible titled "The Leningrad Codex" - it's the oldest complete manuscript of the Hebrew Old Testament. Smith used a computer-driven application of the ELS method, as well as code-breaking techniques and his intimate knowledge of ancient and aboriginal ceremonial devices like scepters, crowns and thrones to arrive at his reading of the Bible.
Smith is a devout Christian and his conclusions revolve around Christian motifs. In particular, he claims to have found detailed informations about Jesus's birth, crucifixion and resurrection within a passage in Genesis.
The book has received a special on the History channel and a documentary series is being made about the travels leading to Smith's discoveries.
David McKillop, the executive producer for Jupiter Entertainment, which is creating the TV series, said that "Tim's quest is the ultimate treasure hunt for one of history's greatest mysteries, and his map is an ancient text that could possibly be talking to us."
If you think there can't possibly be any pattern in the Bible and other long texts may produce similar results - there are studies for you too. The Australian computer scientist Brendan McKay famously came up with a table of assassination predictions in "Moby Dick".
While the Bible or "Torah Codes" can be criticized, there is scholarly evidence that ancient writers of the Bible, like Matthew, "consciously used numerical patterns or codes in their compositions," as writes Dr. Randall Buth, the director of the Biblical Language Center and a lecturer at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
Another factor we should keep in mind that our understanding of how time and history work very much depends on our frame of reference. If time flows differently, for example as proposed by the Block Universe Theory, all bets would be off and a book could theoretically contain the code of history both of the past and the future.
bigthink.com/surprising-science/scientists-clai-the-bible-is-written-in-code-that-predicts-future-events
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Post by purr on Nov 21, 2018 20:29:48 GMT
Time will tell, & as I believe the RAPTURE will happen within the next 3 years we won't have long to wait. Two prophesies to look out for Ezekiel 38/39, many believe it tells when the armies of Russia, Iran & Turkey mass on the mountains above Israel & an earthquake decimates there armies, & men with beards attack the Vatican & the Pope has to flee Rome. I believe that UFO's are supernatural & from hell, you don't, that's okay with me, remember there are many people around the world who don't enjoy the freedom of expression that we do.
The Roswell Crash seems to indicate that one version of true UFO is a highly advanced mechanical transport unfortunately prone to fatal malfunction.
Hi John60, interesting posts. Do I detect the preacher spreading the Good News to those led astray by demonic UFOs? Of course, when as a Christian entering a debate forum you also must be prepared to offer a Defense of what you believe in (beyond declaring it 'truth'). Are you OK with that, John? You seem to be confidently identifying unidentified flying objects as supernatural and originating in Hell. I propose UFOs have come to describe thousands of observations worldwide of apparent objects moving through our skies and near space that cannot be positively identified in earthly terms. Here are some problems, for your consideration , with your belief that UFOs=Supernatural & From Hell: Project Blue Book concluded that up to 90% of UFO observations could be explained as mondane, natural, at least earthly phenomena. Like supposed formations of UFOs which were probably a flight of migrating geese at impressive altitudes. Imo up to 90% of 'UFOs' actually are misidentifications, thus not hellish incursions. 10% of reported UFOs (maybe even 20% according to Stanton Friedman in his analysis of Blue Book) however are found to deserve their name/acronym by having physical object qualities, display controlled flight and seemed beyond explanation in earthly terms. John, in your opinion, do your Supernatural Demons moving through our skies tally with the use of physical objects (even forms of transport resembling machines / aircraft / spacecraft)? What's your take. You're at an UFO site, and among (highly diverse) UFO lore recorded here, the arguably most dramatic account of all is that of the Roswell Crash. If accurate, one version of true UFO is a highly advanced mechanical transport, featuring a metallic hull, unknown gravity compensating propulsion, interior crew compartments for biological entities (folks with physical bodies!) and unfortunately prone to fatal malfunction. As evidenced by the thing crashing on Bill Brazel's ranchland in New Mexico. Again, would Demons get themselves splattered all over the place, leaving a field of debris? Looking forward to hearing your opinion on these matters!
Go figure... this here front page of the Roswell Daily Record of July 8 1947 featuring the headline claiming a flying saucer 'captured' by the RAAF.
purr
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Post by moksha on Nov 22, 2018 0:55:26 GMT
Scientists claim the Bible is written in code that predicts future events
The controversy around the Torah codes gets a new life.
Paul Ratner
19 November, 2018
• Mathematicians claim to see a predictive pattern in the ancient Torah texts.
• The code is revealed by a method found with special computer software.
• Some events described by reading the code took place after the code was written.
Searching for patterns is how we make sense of the world. We look for meaning in the often-overwhelming chaos by making connections between symbols and events. Some times these are meaningful discoveries, resulting in good science and breakthrough insights. Other times, these patterns may lead nowhere but still help us focus energies on what's important.
One intriguing source of patterns that has emerged thanks to our development of computers is the Bible. Among humanity's oldest and arguably most influential pieces of writing, the Bible has been studied and analyzed phrase by phrase by countless scholars and devotees. But what computers have allowed us to do, thanks to the work of Israeli mathematicians, is to see that the ancient text may be not only an intricately-weaved collection of spiritual stories and teachings but a code that speaks to the inner workings of history.
"The Bible Code," a 1997's book by the reporter Michael Drosnin popularized the idea. His book claimed to use the earliest parts of the Bible to predict the assassination of the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, the Gulf war, and comet collisions. It also seemed to have information about the Holocaust, various other assassinations like those of JFK and his brother Robert. It similarly suggested a nuclear war was looming – a theme the author explored in subsequent books of the "Bible Code" series.
The inspiration for Drosnin's book came from the 1994 paper "Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis," published in the journal Statistical Science by mathematicians Doron Witztum, Eliyahu Rips and Yoav Rosenberg. They presented statistical evidence that information about the lives of famous rabbis was encoded in the Hebrew text of the Book of Genesis, hundreds of years before those rabbis lived.
Dr. Eliyahu Rips is one of the world's leading experts on group theory and is the scientist who got most closely associated with the "Bible Code" hypothesis, even though the software used to implement the word search was designed by both Rips and Witztum.
Rips later distanced himself from Drosnin's book. In a 1997 statement on the matter, he pointed out that he didn't make or support some of the specific predictions Drosnin claimed.
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The research I have done, "Happenstance Experiment" was attacked and taken down, the research that others have done, always asks what is it for? I think that is the wrong question, I think the question should be how was it done, cos it was. IMHO, it was the subconscious human mind, which is connected to the UNI-VERSE, whether it is natural, super natural or preternatural, and for HAL, artificial, is up to the observer to determine.
I have started putting Happenstance Experiment in a format that can be shared without the cyber police interfering
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IMHO, the book of Revelation is a re-write of Genesis it is the cycle of life we Humans have come to see.
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