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Post by ZETAR on Apr 12, 2018 4:17:06 GMT
"Many theologians believe that Leonardo Da Vinci deliberately concealed secret codes and subliminal messages in most of his work."www.express.co.uk/news/weird/834093/Leonardo-da-Vinci-PROOF-of-aliens-Mona-Lisa
"If this is true then it's reasonable to assume that the Mona Lisa was in fact painted in order to conceal important historical and religious facts possibly regarding the extraterrestrial presence and its surreptitious involvement within the Roman Catholic Church.”TEMPER THE ABOVE WITH THE RELIGIOUS OVERTONES/DOGMA OF THAT PERIOD!
"Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with Church dogma must be burned without pity."
- Pope Innocent III
SHALOM...Z
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Post by purr on Apr 14, 2018 1:20:20 GMT
"Many theologians believe that Leonardo Da Vinci deliberately concealed secret codes and subliminal messages in most of his work."www.express.co.uk/news/weird/834093/Leonardo-da-Vinci-PROOF-of-aliens-Mona-Lisa
"If this is true then it's reasonable to assume that the Mona Lisa was in fact painted in order to conceal important historical and religious facts possibly regarding the extraterrestrial presence and its surreptitious involvement within the Roman Catholic Church.”TEMPER THE ABOVE WITH THE RELIGIOUS OVERTONES/DOGMA OF THAT PERIOD!
"Anyone who attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with Church dogma must be burned without pity."
- Pope Innocent III
SHALOM...Z Exceedingly weird schtuff, ZETAR, and this is a case of the movie being (lots!) better than Dan Brown's plodding prose, I admit to viewing it at least 15 times and a willingness to watch it again in future. Imo direct evidence for Brown's version, largely based on the Holy Blood Holy Grail by Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln, of Da Vinci's code, its underlying secret, is weak. Plenty of suggestive circumstantial evidence however. This goes to why historical traces are vague or absent as well: the Catholic church seems to have had a virulent responce to folks who believed & preached that Jesus had a wife, a family, heirs, as did the Cathars. Wiped them out. Friday, October 13, 1307 to the conclusion of the Council of Vienne 1312 (you are more familiar with this history than me) saw King Philip IV and Pope Clement V extract confessions of devil worship/heresy from the Knights Templar, disavow, kill and disband this order. Was it just about money and power? Or did they possess the real secret of THE DA VINCI CODE, namely the mortal remains of Mary of Magdalene, the wife of Jesus, as well as the identities of the couple's living descendants? Can imagine this upset Clement some. If true, the Knights Templars held the key to absolute power over Popes, all of Catholic Christendom or to destroy that church entirely. At will. Me, I wouldn't mind if Jesus had a wife and kid(s). Fits nicely with him livng the life of a Jewish Rabbi. And a normal guy with a love life. purr
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Post by nyx on Apr 14, 2018 3:06:56 GMT
I think the first movie The Da Vinci Code was the best of the series of these three movies.
According to the History Channel, during Jesus's time men were not accepted if not married. Rabbis think men married around 18, and women around 13 or 14 years of age. It is guessed that the life span during Jesus's time was about 30 years old.
Not trying to get into the pros and cons of religion, I would assume Jesus was married and may had a family.
If Mary Magdalene was real, she could have been Jesus's wife.
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Post by lonegunman on Apr 21, 2018 0:28:08 GMT
Well Nyx, 30 years old sounds about right considering a few facts of the time. Battles then would sometime have 200,000 men slaughtering each other for days. The loss of half your armies wasn't out of the ordinary. That would probably skew the average age of inhabitants a bit !
Lone
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Post by GhostofEd on Apr 21, 2018 1:07:39 GMT
I'm curious. How many have read any books about Da Vinci, his art and invention ideas? Any recommendations?
I'm presently listing to the Leonardo Da Vinci by Walter Isaacson (unfortunately the abridged version without the supplemental material) and it perked my interest to go deeper and get other material. His use of perspective and other innovative techniques is unquestioned. That he hid images and secret codes not so. A lot of naturally resulting geometric forms can be derived from the proportions and perspective lines he employed. Knowing about his life (the person) can add to a better understanding if and why he would have embedded any secret messages beyond the imagery and emotions he wanted to invoke.
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Post by lonegunman on Apr 21, 2018 1:56:22 GMT
Try these Ed. They are rated pretty good. I preferred Wallace bcause it included more of his other interests he mastered !
Michelangelo: The Artist, the Man, and His Times by William E. Wallace
Michelangelo: A Life in Six Masterpieces by Miles J. Unger
LOne
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Post by lonegunman on Apr 21, 2018 2:00:12 GMT
Forgot Irving Stones 'The Agony and the Ecstasy' is pretty close to how he lived and what he was like. Stone did extensive research and is known to be one who sticks to the story and facts.
Lone
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Post by GhostofEd on Apr 21, 2018 2:02:14 GMT
Thanks. Michelangelo was on my list after Da Vinci.
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Post by nyx on Apr 21, 2018 2:38:13 GMT
I sounds like Da Vinci came from the future, kinda like Einstein.
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Post by purr on Apr 21, 2018 18:27:57 GMT
I sounds like Da Vinci came from the future, kinda like Einstein. Fascinating thought, Nyx. I sometimes think souls are occasionally born into this world from different heavenly or hellish dimensions. Another idea is that of inspiration, as if human genius expresses insights from otherwordly realms. purr
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Post by GhostofEd on Apr 23, 2018 0:45:05 GMT
I sounds like Da Vinci came from the future, kinda like Einstein. I doubt it. No question he was beyond his time a few hundred years but some of his ideas would not have worked and were based on incorrect understanding. He was also prone to a few all too human idiosyncrasies. He was a person of his time who did not have to get help from the future. If he did, would he really be worthy of our wonder? I think not.
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Post by lonegunman on Apr 24, 2018 17:09:30 GMT
I sounds like Da Vinci came from the future, kinda like Einstein. I doubt it. No question he was beyond his time a few hundred years but some of his ideas would not have worked and were based on incorrect understanding. He was also prone to a few all too human idiosyncrasies. He was a person of his time who did not have to get help from the future. If he did, would he really be worthy of our wonder? I think not. I would surmise that those with superior ability and intelligence might just have a form of predictability of future events and invention . Not so much a prophet but in the intelligence, a sense of possibility that allows a design or knowledge that becomes a prototype of the future. Lone
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Post by GhostofEd on Apr 24, 2018 19:43:32 GMT
His curiosity was unbounded. Here's his To Do List: - On the Utilities. Spectacles with case, firestick, fork, bistoury , charcoal, boards, sheets of paper, chalk, white wax, forceps, pane of glass, fine-tooth bone saw, scalpel, inkhorn, penknife.
- Get hold of a skull. Nutmeg.
- Observe the holes in the substance of the brain, where there are more of less of them.
- Describe the tongue of the woodpecker and jaw of a crocodile.
- Give measurement of the dead using his finger [as a unit].
- Get your books on anatomy bound. Boots, stockings, comb, towel, shirts, shoelaces, penknife, pens, a skin for the chest, gloves, wrapping paper, charcoal.
Who think about the tongue of a woodpecker?
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Post by HAL on Apr 25, 2018 21:07:28 GMT
Lone,
.. a sense of possibility that allows a design or knowledge that becomes a prototype of the future.
Sounds a bit like the science fiction writers of the early 50s-60s.
'Here is the future, now go out and invent it'.
HAL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 3:21:34 GMT
I think the first movie The Da Vinci Code was the best of the series of these three movies. According to the History Channel, during Jesus's time men were not accepted if not married. Rabbis think men married around 18, and women around 13 or 14 years of age. It is guessed that the life span during Jesus's time was about 30 years old. Not trying to get into the pros and cons of religion, I would assume Jesus was married and may had a family. If Mary Magdalene was real, she could have been Jesus's wife. Interesting that av lifespan in afghanistan is 45 (2018 figures)..but half the population of 33 M avg is 15..and the males outnumber females..
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