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Post by gus on Oct 12, 2018 4:02:43 GMT
Ok this is going to be interesting to discuss with you.
I go through stages of having lucid dreaming and when I do lucid dreaming I try to make contact with Grey ETs. Over the years it has never been anything special.
1st one was I was in Hawaii and a Military MP asked me to go into a bunker as Aliens were attacking, that same week someone else in the same forum had the same dream unbeknownst to them. We connected and nothing much more came from that.
2nd time was I went on board a ship and was shown outside the window with my wife that there were 1000s of UFOs circling the Earth.
3rd time I was on the ship looking out the window over China as a new day started. The pollution would rise as the sun did over the nation. Nothing was said to me but it would seem that it was pointed out to me as a problem.
In my most recent Threads I have come to the realisation that ETs are watching Earth more closely than I had previously thought. During this understanding I came across Kardashves Scale where it was described Earth as a Type 0 Civilisation. This helped me understand that ETs were Type 3 or 4 Civilisation, because the Grey ETs using telepathy and teleportation.
Dr Steven Greer has been working on CE5 with the use of meditation groups to attract ETs. In other talks Dr Steven Greer explains that the a Type 3 or 4 Civilisation use multidimensional communication, rather than our current forms. It was then put to Dr Steven Greer that this type of communication would be close to our understanding of the Astral level which he agreed.
Before I truly understood what this meant, out came the documentary "Hunt for the Skinwalker" which explains this very between dimensions/worlds of demonic attacks with ET/UFO contact.
4th Lucid time happened over the last few nights. My Lucid dreaming IMO was able to focus on contact with Grey ETs on the moon and they were not happy I was the one making contact. It felt like it was on my terms and not on theirs.
Its either a dream or it might be something more, only time will tell.
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Post by HAL on Oct 12, 2018 20:01:21 GMT
... Its either a dream or it might be something more, only time will tell... 'Eating all kinds of food so close to bedtime they always made him have these nightmares, it seemed' Scenes from a night's dream : Genesis. Cut down on the strong cheese. HAL.  |
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Post by gus on Oct 12, 2018 20:53:52 GMT
Lol talking to you is like talking to a NSA discrediting troll but I have known you for a while to know thats that not you. I once scoffed a heap of cheese in the hope that it would happen. The first time I did eat heaps of cheese I had these trippy dreams and the second time nothing happened. All of which is at the expense of my allergy to heaps of cheese. The things we do for science ay   So seriously I know the difference between dreams and lucid dreaming. A few times I have had a friend of mine die and I had no idea over the weekend. I had dreams of them saying goodbye to me and walking off into the light. The following day I was informed of their passing. This has happened to me a few times and the above post reflects the theory of Lucid Dreaming to make contact with ETs. Death is another dimension, granted it may not be a dimension that ETs use much but it is a space we can walk in. |
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Post by thelmadonna on Oct 12, 2018 22:29:13 GMT
I am not aware of anyone who has not been abducted, who can make contact with them, though I have heard some claims that seem possible. A guy who goes by the name of Yahweh has claimed he can call them down in his little bit of the Nevada desert, also a group from Japan called J-UFO claimed they could call them down. Lucid dreaming is real enough.  |
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Post by gus on Oct 12, 2018 23:10:58 GMT
I am not aware of anyone who has not been abducted, who can make contact with them, though I have heard some claims that seem possible. A guy who goes by the name of Yahweh has claimed he can call them down in his little bit of the Nevada desert, also a group from Japan called J-UFO claimed they could call them down. Lucid dreaming is real enough. Yes I remember Yahweh on the old forum and Major X was his mate. How odd that all was. Never heard of J-UFO but when you think that we are dealing with Type 4 Civilisations anything is possible. |
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Post by HAL on Oct 13, 2018 19:05:53 GMT
Hi Gus, . .Lol talking to you is like talking to a NSA discrediting troll .. Nope, as you also said, I am not in league with the Devil. And it would probably be MI6 if I was. I always have problems with claims such as yours, but can't say they are not based on fact (as judged by you)as I wasn't there; as they say. We have other members, equally respected, who also make claims I cannot fully accept. But hey, we are in the ufo business. So what IS reality anyway ? My logical brain tells me that it is all happening inside your head. But there again, there is a school of thought that says that the whole of what we perceive as objective reality isn't actually real in the sense most people understand. Que Bonehead. Also, having experienced two (at least) apparitions and one ufo sighting, I am in no place to doubt other peoples claims. I couldn't 'prove' that what I saw, or rather experienced, was real. So I am not going to throw any stones. But my logic tells me that some how, in respect to beings from elsewhere, It is highly unlikely. However, maybe time will show I was mistaken. Having spent a lot of time (does time even exist ? As a dimension, I think not) watching lectures by people like Suskind and his friends, everything is probably up for grabs. As for death being another dimension one can walk in. I have been dead. Not for long but clinically flat lined for a few minutes, at hospital. I don't remember going on any field trips. Unfortunately I also have a vague feeling that I also don't remember some things I should do. HAL. P.S. I also like strong cheese.  |
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Post by gus on Oct 13, 2018 22:49:20 GMT
Hi Gus, . .Lol talking to you is like talking to a NSA discrediting troll .. Nope, as you also said, I am not in league with the Devil. And it would probably be MI6 if I was. I always have problems with claims such as yours, but can't say they are not based on fact (as judged by you)as I wasn't there; as they say. We have other members, equally respected, who also make claims I cannot fully accept. But hey, we are in the ufo business. So what IS reality anyway ? My logical brain tells me that it is all happening inside your head. But there again, there is a school of thought that says that the whole of what we perceive as objective reality isn't actually real in the sense most people understand. Que Bonehead. Also, having experienced two (at least) apparitions and one ufo sighting, I am in no place to doubt other peoples claims. I couldn't 'prove' that what I saw, or rather experienced, was real. So I am not going to throw any stones. But my logic tells me that some how, in respect to beings from elsewhere, It is highly unlikely. However, maybe time will show I was mistaken. Having spent a lot of time (does time even exist ? As a dimension, I think not) watching lectures by people like Suskind and his friends, everything is probably up for grabs. As for death being another dimension one can walk in. I have been dead. Not for long but clinically flat lined for a few minutes, at hospital. I don't remember going on any field trips. Unfortunately I also have a vague feeling that I also don't remember some things I should do. HAL. P.S. I also like strong cheese. LOL best reply ever |
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Post by swamprat on Oct 13, 2018 23:56:07 GMT
When we try to imagine how some race thousands (if not millions) of years ahead of us, communicates with us, we have a great difficulty in picturing it. It's like dolphins and whales understanding how humans communicate with them.
Is it thru dreams? Is it ESP?
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Post by ZETAR on Oct 14, 2018 5:12:16 GMT
When we try to imagine how some race thousands (if not millions) of years ahead of us, communicates with us, we have a great difficulty in picturing it. It's like dolphins and whales understanding how humans communicate with them.
Is it thru dreams? Is it ESP?  BUT OF COURSE YOU'LL HAVE TO CONVINCE HAL/INT21 THAT THERE IS "some race thousands (if not millions) of years ahead of us" SHALOM...Z |
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Post by thelmadonna on Oct 14, 2018 9:19:37 GMT
I am not aware of anyone who has not been abducted, who can make contact with them, though I have heard some claims that seem possible. A guy who goes by the name of Yahweh has claimed he can call them down in his little bit of the Nevada desert, also a group from Japan called J-UFO claimed they could call them down. Lucid dreaming is real enough. Yes I remember Yahweh on the old forum and Major X was his mate. How odd that all was. Never heard of J-UFO but when you think that we are dealing with Type 4 Civilisations anything is possible. I think the Japanese Gov. banned the J-UFO Group, saying it was a cult. Here is a more recent report about a Japanese boy called Ido who is claimed to be able to call them down. www.coasttocoastam.com/article/ufo-boy-captivates-japan |
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Post by moksha on Oct 14, 2018 11:23:37 GMT
When we try to imagine how some race thousands (if not millions) of years ahead of us, communicates with us, we have a great difficulty in picturing it. It's like dolphins and whales understanding how humans communicate with them.
Is it thru dreams? Is it ESP? I find it impossible to convince the bias minded, i am not sure HAL/INT21 is 100% bias, but very close.
I suspect the alt ideas may be on to "SUM" tin.
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Post by HAL on Oct 14, 2018 19:01:25 GMT
Moksha, ZETAR,
Actually the concept of a technological race that is many years ahead of us doesn't seem strange to me.
The idea that these same beings are visiting us is a different thing.
I do accept that there are things we call ufo that apparently have a objective base (sorry, Bonehead) and logically must come from somewhere.
And do they have to be within our Universe, or even dimension ?
There is a theory, pushed by Leonard Susskind and friends, that as the Universe is accelerating away from itself we will maybe be seeing only part of it, and that this part will get smaller as the Universe picks up speed. Reaching a point where there may be no stars in the sky as they will all be too far away for the light to reach us. No more 'twinkle, twinkle little star'.
So if a technological race were to either exist, or be formed, we would probably never know.
This also begs the question, if the acceleration is continuous, will the departing stars etc ever exceed the speed of light ? And if thy did, how would they know; having no reference points.
HAL
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Post by gus on Oct 17, 2018 5:03:44 GMT
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Post by purr on Oct 17, 2018 19:34:52 GMT
Moksha, ZETAR, Actually the concept of a technological race that is many years ahead of us doesn't seem strange to me. The idea that these same beings are visiting us is a different thing. I do accept that there are things we call ufo that apparently have a objective base (sorry, Bonehead) and logically must come from somewhere. And do they have to be within our Universe, or even dimension ? There is a theory, pushed by Leonard Susskind and friends, that as the Universe is accelerating away from itself we will maybe be seeing only part of it, and that this part will get smaller as the Universe picks up speed. Reaching a point where there may be no stars in the sky as they will all be too far away for the light to reach us. No more 'twinkle, twinkle little star'. So if a technological race were to either exist, or be formed, we would probably never know. This also begs the question, if the acceleration is continuous, will the departing stars etc ever exceed the speed of light ? And if thy did, how would they know; having no reference points. HAL Sorry for being neither MOKSHA or ZETAR, HAL (what is it with youguys and capitals  ?) but reading your post with interest I cannot help but noticing logically that your acceptance of "things we call ufo that apparently have a objective base" by having "come from somewhere" do seem to show your evolving insight "that these same beings are visiting us". It would seem that (unbeknownst?) within your own mind you already have come to the conclusion that ufo-things that/who have gone to all the trouble to come here by their own volition and power, and objectively so, uh... ARE THERE . Wherever there really is (for all we know it's right here and now!) I agree the strange things we observe could indicate they are technologically way ahead of us. Capable of crossing Space or Dimensions.
Artist's rendition of Kenneth Arnold's 1947 observation of a formation of strange aircraft flying with a 'skimming' motion.
CGI illustrating Budd Hopkins' Brooklyn Bridge Abduction case.
The big question in my mind is, accepting that UFOs are here, whether contact is limited to us observing them in our skies, or if we are becoming aware of a continuum of deeper human-to-alien interaction ranging from intentionally SHOWING themselves to even taking us for Encounters of 3rd / 4th Kind. Having finally arrived (if Gus is right) in our dreamworld/consciousness.
Weird stuff.... purr
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Post by HAL on Oct 17, 2018 21:03:44 GMT
Purr, ...(what is it with youguys and capitals ... If I remember correctly, it was because ZETAR has a vision problem and it is easier for him to read upper case text. At one time I used to use upper case in all my text to him. Problem was he wouldn't be able to tell if I was shouting at him. My own use (HAL) is because the avatar is an acronym. Anyway. To use a rather banal analogy. If I observe, even for just a brief moment, a bus passing the end of my road. I can safely say it came from somewhere and is on it's way to somewhere. And it has a defined purpose. The problem with ufo is that, whilst it's presence in the immediate moment appears to be real, there is no 'from' or 'to' or 'why'. So it operates outside our current fields of knowledge. Until we work out what they are, we won't be able to work out the 'where', let alone the why. As for the Arnold depiction. I take it you are aware that he was about eighty mile from where he says they were. Damn good eyesight. This was the sighting that appears to have set the whole ufo phenomena rolling. yet it was a single witness sighting with no corroboration at all. Now isn't that a bit odd ? HAL. |
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?) but reading your post with interest I cannot help but noticing logically that your acceptance of "things we call ufo that apparently have a objective base" by having "come from somewhere" do seem to show your evolving insight "that these same beings are visiting us". It would seem that (unbeknownst?) within your own mind you already have come to the conclusion that ufo-things that/who have gone to all the trouble to come here by their own volition and power, and objectively so, uh... ARE THERE 
