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Post by HAL on Sept 15, 2018 20:20:37 GMT
Gort,
But what will you do if Trump does turn out to have been in cahoots with the Russians ?
Just wondering.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 21:32:04 GMT
Define cahoots, and if he did (what exactly) did it affect the election? What about Hillary uranium deal with the Russians?
All of this is liberal maneuvers corrupted at the highest levels of our government, that should be most concerning, not if Trump farted.
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Post by HAL on Sept 16, 2018 22:13:01 GMT
Isn't 'in cahoots' a synonym for 'colluding with' ?
I'm Just wondering what people will do if it really is true. Not saying it is or that other political shenanigans are not of importance.
Clinton initially swore that he had no relationship with Monika. But in the end had to admit it.
Bishops, Cardinals etc, supposed pillars of society are turning out to be very bad people indeed. These things do happen.
I think the saying is 'Oh how the mighty fall'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 22:45:59 GMT
Unless it can be proven that some "shenanigans with the Russians" resulted in Trumps election over Shrillery it means nothing. Which is what it is. The Dems are trying to create the illusion, that even if unproven, Trump is unworthy and the Dems hope to use this scheme to gain back the house. Its like some prosecutor saying "have you stopped beating your wife, I withdraw the question." From that point on everyone believes the guy beats his wife. In Trumps case the Dems want everyone to believe that he was elected with collusion (help) from the Russians so they can get back the House. Say it often enough and in different flavors some will be persuaded, or at least that is the Dems strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 6:53:20 GMT
Unless it can be proven that some "shenanigans with the Russians" resulted in Trumps election over Shrillery it means nothing. Which is what it is. The Dems are trying to create the illusion, that even if unproven, Trump is unworthy and the Dems hope to use this scheme to gain back the house. Its like some prosecutor saying "have you stopped beating your wife, I withdraw the question." From that point on everyone believes the guy beats his wife. In Trumps case the Dems want everyone to believe that he was elected with collusion (help) from the Russians so they can get back the House. Say it often enough and in different flavors some will be persuaded, or at least that is the Dems strategy. Had that pegged “Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford demands 'full investigation' by FBI before testifying, in letter from her lawyers” Anyone surprised by this low Dem move. Predictable, Oh so predictable! They would have gone with “beats his wife” but in closed sessions they (Dems) favored the Ford story as a better delay/disrupt tactic. (Anita Hill all over again) www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/19/kavanaugh-accuser-christine-blasey-ford-demands-full-investigation-by-fbi-before-testifying-in-letter-from-her-lawyers.htmlalso see the Dems scramble with the declassification of the FISA/collusion documents. Its gonna be interesting!!
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Post by HAL on Sept 19, 2018 20:35:05 GMT
Gort,
I think the main damage has already been done.
This last eighteen months has produced so much confusion that one has to suspect that that really was the aim. To spread confusion.
Who wants to make deals with some one who is willing to walk away from already agree deals ?
No matter what you think of the guy, you have to admit that he is forever saying one thing and then retracting it and saying he actually meant something different. His avowed aim appears to be to unwind everything his predecessor did. Simply because he can.
Statements like 'If I lose then there will be uprising' are pure dog whistles. Hints to the faithful.
'Don't believe anything you read/see/hear' It is all very dangerous stuff. George Orwell would have loved it.
I hope it all works out well for you guys. But I seriously doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 23:44:31 GMT
Just search unemployment figures, Economy, stock marked etc. The Trump Presidency: A Success Story, that's the reality but Obama, pathetically tries to be relevant. It will still take about 20 years to undo the damage Obama, Kerry and Clinton did to this country.
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Post by ZETAR on Sept 20, 2018 15:35:33 GMT
Just search unemployment figures, Economy, stock marked etc. The Trump Presidency: A Success Story, that's the reality but Obama, pathetically tries to be relevant. It will still take about 20 years to undo the damage Obama, Kerry and Clinton did to this country. Meanwhile, there is a pattern here from the Left. Just when it looks like a conservative might attain a high position, like a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court, all of a sudden come accusers out of the wood work…maybe even alleging something that supposedly took place decades ago.
constitution.com/saul-alinsky-does-the-supreme-court/
This is reminiscent of last-minute allegations of sexual harassment against Clarence Thomas, who decried the “high tech lynching” the Left attempted against him at that time to block him from sitting on the Court.Too often the Left has begun to take the principles of that Machiavellian Marxist community organizer from Chicago, Saul Alinsky (1909-1972), and apply them to virtually every position of political power. Alinsky studied organized crime and was in effect tutored by Al Capone’s successor, Frank Nitti—the boss of Chicago’s chief crime mob—and he had great influence on Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Alinsky’s seminal book was Rules for Radicals (1971), which he dedicated to Satan: “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology , and history … the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom—Lucifer.”
Alinksy said: “The end justifies almost any means. All effective actions require the passport of morality. You do what you can and clothe it in moral garments…moral rationalization is indispensable at times of action, whether to justify the selection or the use of ends and means.”"The promise given was a necessity of the past: the word broken is a necessity of the present" ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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Post by HAL on Sept 20, 2018 21:05:30 GMT
Gort, ... Just search unemployment figures, Economy, stock marked et.. I do. Are you aware of the 'USdebtclock' ? I'll post a link to it shortly. It is a rolling account of all the major financial indices. I have been taking a record of all the indices every month since the day Trump was put in power. On the last day of every month I take a screen-shot of the clock and transfer all the data from that moment in time and transfer it to a spread sheet. It makes quite interesting reading. And it doesn't show quite the rosy picture he and his colleagues like to paint. Nor does the picture coming from the business world. Just watch CNBC. Sure, there is some good news. With a huge injection of government cash and a lowering of taxes, there has to be. But there are side effects. The laws of Unexpected Consequences. Your inflation is rising. Your New Home prices are rising. The number of people claiming benefits is rising. ... It will still take about 20 years to undo the damage Obama, Kerry and Clinton did to this country... Trump is removing the safeguards that were put in place to prevent the banks from doing what they did back in 2007/8. Trump,is removing the limits on methane release into the atmosphere, And loosening up the limits on car emissions. How long before that damage will be undone ? I can understand you thinking things are going swell, but they are actually showing signs of slowing down. The 'Trump-bump' effect is past. Some tech people or others in specialised jobs may be better off. But Ordinary Joe down in the lumber yard isn't. His cost are already rising faster than his income. It will all come home to roost in 2019. By the way, it happened to us. The housing market took off like a Space X rocket when Thatcher freed up the market. Then it crashed. People were suddenly in that new place The Negative Equity Trap'. They house prices dropped like a rock. People couldn't sell. They were up to their eyes in debt. Not nice. Here is the link to USdebtclock. www.usdebtclock.org
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 19:01:58 GMT
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Post by ZETAR on Sept 22, 2018 2:10:50 GMT
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Post by ZETAR on Sept 22, 2018 4:45:35 GMT
FORMER SCALIA LAW CLERK Drops Pictures and EvidenceEd Whelan, Justice Scalia’s former law clerk and president of conservative think tank the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC), came out in defense of Brett Kavanaugh and said compelling evidence will come out next week exonerating Kavanaugh.
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/former-scalia-law-clerk-drops-pictures-and-evidence-that-blows-christine-fords-case-wide-open/
According to Ford’s letter, the assault occurred “in a suburban Maryland area home at a gathering that included me and four others.” Her WaPo account adds that the house was “not far from” the Columbia Country Club.
— Ed Whelan (@edwhelaneppc) September 20, 2018
The “four others” that she and her lawyer have identified are Kavanaugh, Mark Judge, P.J. Smyth, and a female classmate of Ford’s. None of the four lived in the vicinity of the Columbia Country Club.
— Ed Whelan (@edwhelaneppc) September 20, 2018
Kavanaugh’s home was 3.6 miles away; Smyth’s 4.3 miles; Judge’s 10 miles; and the female classmate’s 7 miles.
— Ed Whelan (@edwhelaneppc) September 20, 2018
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 18:06:52 GMT
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Post by HAL on Sept 25, 2018 21:36:58 GMT
Gort, Did you look at usdebtclock ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 21:43:37 GMT
yes and how much did obama contribute, something like double or triple the then existing debt. and while campaigning scorned bush for his debt contribution which by comparison to obama after his election was much much less. Look it all up if you think I'm misstating.
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