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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:33:45 GMT
I would like to make some comments from my reading of your case. I don't think it's a good idea to link random events into a case of 'I've been visited and observed by aliens'. I'm not questioning that you saw that building , but you also describe having a euphoric feeling when you saw the building. You simply cannot discount the possibility that you had a mild seizure at this time. A lot of people make the mistake that the brain is a 100% perfect machine when in fact it offers to us a subjective view of the reality around us. If the brain processed things exactly as it sees we would all be looking at things upside down, because that is the way light is reflected in the eye. I often read a book then suddenly figure out I don't remember anything of the last five pages....does it mean missing time, no it means my brain was dozing off but I was running on autopilot. This is not to say that the building was not there,, it may well have been, just we have to look at all the possibilities, including the fact your brain had a mild seizure or hallucination or REM dreaming while awake. The other thing you describe, waking up paralyzed, is really a very common phenonemon, it's called sleep paralysis. I have it occur to me and can also testify to being scared the first time it happened. You can't move, speak, do anything, but wide awake. Sometimes it feels like somebody is holding you down. But you will notice that it goes away after a few minutes, that's because the muscle relaxants disperse and you can move your muscles again. The small scars you describe, well honestly who doesn't have scars and marks on them over a lifetime, not all of them you remember doing, especially if you do manual work. I'm not crticising you here, just there are people here will lead you down a path of 'connect the dots' that is not neccessarily there. Lastly, there were some people describing what are almost definitely Chinese flying lanterns on here (I have lit plenty myself, very large paper lanterns with wax paper inside that burns and they can float and move quickly on fast air currents).
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:34:04 GMT
I think you may have experienced a time slip op.There have been lots of cases of this .People have even checked into and slept in hotel etc gone back for some reason to find that they disappeared.Most disconcerting for all involved .I think that may be where the explanation lies.
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:34:29 GMT
Your story reminded me of a time when I was young we were driving up to the beach in hastings england. On the way there I saw this massive castle to my right and remembered thinking how amazing that was and I would like to go there. At the beach I told my family and they said they didnt know what I was talking about. I tried to find it on the way back and it was gone. Iv since been back many times to hastings as I have friends there and have never seen this castle. I know what I saw though. It was real I know that. So strange tho
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:34:48 GMT
My husband had a strange experience as a child. There was a building site which he used to pass to his way to school. One hot summers day he was with a school friend and they both stopped to watch the buiders at work. There was an old cottage nearby and an elderly lady came out and offered the boys a drink of lemonade, the boys both entered the cottage and and eagerly accepted the drink. However on leaving the cottage and walking to school they were amazed to find that it was 4pm and everyone was leaving... the journey from the building site to the school should have only taken about 15 minutes, they had left home about 1pm but somehow they had lost several hours ! The teachers contacted the boys parents and the boys explained that they had been into an old ladies cottage for a drink of lemonade and this was the reason they were late for school. My husbands mother went to the site the next day to have a word with the lady and to tell her the boys had been in trouble with their teachers. When they arrived at the site there was no sign of any cottage or indeed its occupant ! The boys swore their account was true and that they had not made up the story as an excuse for being late for school. In recent years this tale surfaced again in the family and my husbands sister who was still living in the area decided to do some research and discovered that an old cottage had once stood on the building site but it had been demolished many years previously... So where were the boys during those missing hours ? Sliders account of the Mysterious Buiding was fascinating and I have no doubt that he saw what he claimed. Samsara
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:35:05 GMT
I just got back this to this thread and saw Slider’s illustrations for the first time today. The thing that came to my mind immediately was the impression not of a building, but of a craft. The L shape on the bottom could well suffice for a landing structure. UFO’s do not have to physically conform to known shapes. Which would also explain why it was never found again. Raf
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:35:24 GMT
I have another story that might be very close to this topic. I used to live in Kansas in an area that had many 'Missile Silos" in place. An aquaintance of mine leased the land above one of these silos. In 1974 most had been abandoned and where either turned over to the land owner they where on or just gutted and left on the Government property they where on. One night while sitting around chewing the fat he mentioned that he had gone to check on his cattle that had been grazing there and got the heck scared out of him. He said what looked like the entire missile silo had been raised out of its whole and was standing upright in the field. He said the place was crawling with personel and he was detained and told he could not have access at the time. We laughed at him at the time. None of us believed him. We went to that site a few days later to hunt prarie chickens and there was what looked like a freshly plowed area where the silo was. The entrance hatch building for it was intact. Looking at that drawing makes me wonder if we should have laughed so hard at the guy. The thought of that building rising out of the ground doesn't sound that far fetched as hgn53k has postulated. If that drawing was in fact a flyable craft then maybe we have had something just like it in that field. Maybe many of them. Lone
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:36:42 GMT
Thanks to everyone who has read my post and offered their opinions and knowledge - I can tell you it helps to hear other people's ideas given in a constructive manner. It has been a few months since I have had time to reply, but the recent flurry of activity in the thread has brought me back. I am still no closer to figuring out what actually took place that day. I must say however that I am beginning to think the incident was either a UFO landing that I had been "invited" to (recall the strong sense of being drawn to an area I don't normally ride in), or a case of an inter-dimensional shift. Either could have accounted for the lost time, however if it was indeed a UFO landing I must have lost my faculties while being levitated or otherwise moved somewhere, motorcycle and all. What prompted me to reply however was to address taipeidude2's opinion. I definitely and sincerely appreciate your opinion, however, your comments lead me to two thoughts. First, I believe you must be a true skeptic, someone who believes there has to be a logical explanation for everything based on the knowledge humankind posesses at this very moment. My only comment is that everything we know about our universe has been learned in only the last 100 years or so. It follows that the meaning there is that we know precious little about what actually can and does take place. I would simply caution taipeidude to not close his mind to events and processes that occur all the time of which we have literally zero knowledge. To think we can explain everything with the data set that we posess today is a least short-sighted if not academically arrogant. The other comment I have is that taipeidude must not be a motorcyclist. I ride a sport bike, highly powered and incredibly agile, yet requiring constant focus and precise control input. A seizure, even mild, drifting off into REM sleep, hallucinating, or going into "autopilot" mode, in the middle of a long sweeping turn with the cycle leaned at 35-45 degrees from vertical, would inevitably result in a crash. Even a relaxing ride on a summer day requires a level of concentration and constant correction that cannot be compared to that of driving a car, walking, or even riding a bicycle. This very fact is what makes my experience so strange - it is totally seamless in my mind, with no interruptions, stop/starts, or other blinks. Yet I lost 25 minutes riding a distance that normally would take 30-40 seconds. With regard to the sleep paralysis, I am fully aware of that process and have experienced it in the past. In every case, however, I can safely say that I was not fully awake. In fact, sleep paralysis disappears when one awakens fully. On the night in question, I was 100% completely and totally awake, able to hear my wife's quiet breathing as she slept, smell her shower gel and her damp hair, and feel the sheets against my skin. Yet it was impossible for me to move any voluntary muscles or even engage my vocal chords to make a sound, and I was nearly overcome with the strong presence of two separate entities next to the bed although I could not see them. Again, I have no concrete explanation, however, it is safe to postulate that the net result requires that something supernatural or paranormal had to have taken place. The questions that leaves us all with is what took place and how?
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:37:02 GMT
So far we've got dwarfs, demons, abductions, alien presence, people going back in time, deep underground missile bases, ley lines and a whole lot of other stuff going on. Nobody here wants to admit the obvious possibility that it could be related to brain chemistry because that would be too boring is it? Let me stress once more, the brain is not infallible and is prone to disease, brain 'farts', emotional and physical stress, mild seizures and mini-strokes and also to erroneous judgements and selective memory. We perceive the world through the prism it generates for us. Again I'm not saying this event wasn't real, it's just if I had the same experience I would also at least entertain this notion, it wouldn't mean I am mad, just the oppositie it would show I am a reasoning and fallible human being. From my reading I can only see that Slider had a euphoric experience, saw this unusual building in an unusual location, experienced an unusual gap in memory and cannot find it again. You also reported that you almost felt you were entering a dream like state at the time you saw the building and if you weren't careful you may have crashed. You also reported that not only you cannot find the building you cannot find the intersection that this event occurred on. So what you are describing is more than the building, but a whole area that has been erased and therefore is pointing away from the 'spaceship' hypothesis or at least complicates it. I have read many stories from folklore that describe the same circumstances, some of these stories are thousands of years old, each society constructs it's meaning of these events to their own time. What causes these stories, hard to tell still. I'm an open-minded person and have worked in the scientific field while reminding myself sometimes that yes we don't know everything that is out there (but we are getting a clearer picture everyday). I don't rule out the possibility of aliens, not from any feeling like most of the people on here that they are somehow 'special' or 'chosen' or feel a 'spiritual connection' or need to create a whole belief structure (I don't have any belief structure and don't need it) but rather I just can determine from latest developments in biological science and astronomy that there is a such a high probablity of microbrial life and by extension eventually intelligent life and artificial life that it would be very silly to discount the possibility that we are being visited or observed from time to time by beings from somewhere else. From some very reliable multiple-eyewitness testimony with radar tracking of UFO sightings (I don't really trust pictures or videos that are easily faked and misinterpreted) there are further hints of things outside our current understanding. On the other hand I don't see even the tiniest shred of evidence or anything that even pointing to dwarfs, demons, leylines, military bases that can pop up and down opposite to the laws of physics, time jumps back and forth and worldwide conspiracy theories. If indeed advanced civilisations visit here and we witness them there is no conflict in my mind with them being able to do things so technologically advanced that they seem paranormal or supernatural to us, yet they are just extensions of technological ability (such as invisibility to visible light/radar, novel propulsion techniques, ability to erase memories etc.) These abilities are only perhaps 50 years ahead for our society. So I'm coming at it from a different line of reasoning than a lot of folks here but I as an 'open-minded skeptic' am also interested to read all the reports on this site. Last comment, actually I have driven a scooter through extremely hair raising traffic (the kind that I see a couple of accidents on every ride) and sometimes I arrive at my destination and have no memory at all of the whole 30 min ride except for some other weird thing I was thinking about at that time. It does really seem that my unconscious pilots the bike! Maybe like an athlete gets into the zone... Probably a sports bike is another level but I don't have any personal experience.
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:37:19 GMT
I do believe what you saw was a building on a different frequency,I am amazed by this story!!You mustve entered a beutiful mystical realm,which I hope one day ill visit.I bet that was amazing,looking at a tree can have the same effect,if you REALLY look at a tree u experience heaven.I really cant wait to explore Gods creations,looking very forward,thank you for sharing the story.
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:37:42 GMT
This thread was brought to my attention today. Slider, I really feel that what you saw was a time slip or a building from another dimension or a building from the distant future that you may see in a future lifetime. I also believe that what you saw could have been a mental projection that disguised the true appearance of a very real UFO craft and accompanying aliens. I do not feel that the building was the UFO. In this case, the "missing time" would likely be actual. That you saw so much detail while riding at 45 MPH on your motorcycle, could suggest that you had stopped (or slowed) or that there was a time distortion. This time distortion might account for what appeared to be "missing time". All in all an enviously wonderful experience. Thank you for sharing it! Penny Manning
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:38:02 GMT
Wow, I had to sign in to leave a comment after I read this thread, which I hadn't seen before, and then after I signed in I couldn't find the thread again, talk about scary...just making some humor.
Is there anyway we can see the sketches of the building again? I can't get the link from that time to work.
I was really intrigued by this thread, it was very interesting to read, and you are very articulate Slider. Have you had any progress in your search to date?
Slider, I ride a sportbike too, now I want to take it out in the country and see if this can happen to me! if only... When you said the bike was running like crap and then as soon as you saw the object, it felt like it was running perfect in every way...could it be it was because the bike was no longer making contact with the road because you got abducted for 25 minutes and they took you, bike and all, wherever they took you during that time. It might have been inter-dimensional because of the weird intersection you have never been able to find again, yet you said, after you sped like a bat out of hell from there, you came to an intersection you DID know, so it couldn't have been that far away.
On the sound...I heard some noise outside my window too in the summertime when i was around that same age. I was also very scared by it, we had woods around our house, and the windows were open except for the screens, and the sound I heard was like a deep guttural wheezing sound. Someone later said it was a deer that made that noise, but it sure sounded pretty creepy to me, I never forgot it.
I also had a sleep paralysis episode around that time too, where I was alone in my room at night, laying on my back and my eyes were open. I could hear some family members downstairs, but I couldn't move or speak, and felt and partially saw a presence rush down the hall and into my room. My impression was it was some sort of indistinct energy in the shape of a bipedal creature of some sort, mostly invisible to me. It came right up to the side of my bed and then I felt it push me down into the mattress and it hit me on my chest area...I remember feeling my body bounce on the mattress!, it was so scary, and then it was gone and I could move and I started screaming. There was even a red mark on my chest where I felt it hit me. This also happened again many years later (about 5 years ago).
(I have seen 3 UFOS with my own eyes to date, green sphere, luminescent oval, and white sphere and caught one UFO on camera, 3 white dots in triangle formation with red dot in middle and turqouise distortion around it.)
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:38:29 GMT
Welcome Slider51. Many years ago I had an experience with what appeared to be a silver metal building that seemed to be rooted in the ground as if it were rising from the ground. On each side of the building stood short beings dressed in yellow rain slickers. They were similar to children and had dark faces or masks. I have never found out what this could have been. I believe your experience is true and fits a pattern.
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:38:44 GMT
Hi Mely, I would like to hear your story please, or a link to it? I am interested in it...
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:39:11 GMT
Hi Slider, I too have had a similar experience, and it involved time loss, too. I also remember reading about a bizarre experience Whitley Strieber had while driving a young friend of his son's home through a familiar part of town which suddenly became UNfamiliar, with things in the wrong place and the wrong street names.. little peculiarities and such that made things seem not quite "right". He said it was as if they'd been instantaneously (and seemlessly!) transported to another dimension that closely resembled our own, but was not quite "right". He started to panic, wondering if they'd be able to get out of whatever they'd fallen into, when suddenly something "switched" and they were back in the familiar area and things were back to rights again. It was a very unusual experience, and I think yours might be something similar, only wherever you were transported there was a sense of wellbeing, calm, peace and joy. In your shoes, I would not be able to forget or release the memory of this event, and I'd be doing my damnedest to get back there, too! Thanks for sharing this with the forum... very interesting.
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Post by philliman on Apr 10, 2018 17:39:36 GMT
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