Slider I am Samsara's friend who she has been trying to put us in touch with eachother. I live on the edge of Dartmoor and saw my first ufo in 1998. My screen name is usualy hgn53k - I must have signed onto this forum in the past because i can't now! My first sighting was huge - easily one mile wide and past over our home on the edge of space twice that night. My second sighting was a close encounter with a flying "Building" This was "L" shaped, very cubic with three white lights underneath. There were corregated tubes between the lights forming a triangle, These were quite large and had eight sided bolt heads attaching them to the craft. I imagine they were for landing on to prevent damage to the anti-gravity lights. I have my own journals on AOL if you fancy looking at them here is the link
Visit my journals here:- journals.aol.co.uk/hgn53k/UFOSightingsDevonEngland/ journals.aol.co.uk/hgn53k/fastwalkersufodisclosure/ Samsara says she has given you my e-mail and I look forward to chatting some time. On my journals there are ACCURATE pictures of the craft we have witnessed. Please let me know if this was what you saw? You may be interested to read the link "The Flying (Saucer) Doctors" which is on my entry the close encounter. There are several stories on there which should be of interest to you! Regards Andy
Many thanks to all who have contributed. I am especially pleased that l275myd has been contacted and is now providing input. I intend to e-mail you soon. I did view your journals and although the subject matter is similar, the craft you saw appears much larger and the "L" shape is another difference.
Alas, as a small business owner, I am stuck having to work today, but as soon as I can arrange some time I am going to generate a drawing of the building-shaped craft I saw. I don't have access to a scanner, but I do have a 3D CAD system I use in my business, and using it to make the drawing will allow viewing from all sides. Being I saw the "building" from a 3/4 view, I believe I can re-create its appearance very accurately. As I also have a semi-known distance (the distance from the road to where the building sat) I should be able to get a very good idea of the actual size of the craft and its appurtanences by using a perspective view from the "known" distance of 150 feet.
Also, I will take some digital photos of the scoop shaped scars on my legs and post those. Unfortunately, those posted in ArcturianKontakt's reply are pretty blurry and I can't tell if they are exactly the same as mine. AK, when I post my photos, please compare and advise, and thank you for doing so.
Was this a spacecraft? Was I picked up and set down elsewhere? What happened to the 25 minutes? Am I "marked" for observation now? Have I been DNA sampled? Am I in danger? Is my wife in danger being around me? These questions course through my mind daily.
My belief (naive or not) is that at least the majority of the aliens visiting us are benevolent, with only research and understanding as their motive. I have said on many occasions to my wife that providing I could be assured my safety and a return to my home and way of life, I would gladly go with any ET asking me to come along. In most ways, I do not fear these visitors, rather, I have a keen interest and curiosity of them and their technologies and way of life. (I do speak bravely, don't I?...I wonder if my courage would remain if the opportunity actually arose for a conscious interaction with an extraterrestrial...) I like to think I would and could go through with it, but I guess the chance still remains that I would simply soil myself and run like hell...
DrDil Thanks for the comment glad you enjoyed Kangaroo kourt. They never did another - I suppose that arguement was a hard one to better and at least they investigated ufo's the following week! The programme editor told me of an encounter he had whilst on a train once with a cylinder.
Slider there are a group of people I can put you in touch with that may help you deal with a possible abduction e-mail me direct and I will put you in contact with them. There are many people who have experienced what you have! Regards Andy
Not so much a church, in the traditional white building with steeple sense. More of a modern steel and glass structure, a low ground floor base with a tower or spire rising from the center - the spire does not taper, it goes straight vertically for 50-60 feet, mirrored glass on all sides, with a stark angular cut across the top, the angled "roof" of the tower is also glass - very much a greenhouse or atrium effect. It was breathtakingly beautiful, very modern in architecture, and very streamlined or aerodynamic looking with all corners rounded.
I hope to have time on Tuesday evening to do the drawing...drat! My business is booming (a good problem to have) but it leaves me so little time....
Andy, I definitely want to have you put me in touch with the group of abductees...another chore I need to accomplish is a throw-away e-mail addy, or I would e-mail you right now...bear with me, things look as though the will be a little less hectic later this week...
SLIDER51, I AM MOST CURIOUS OF THIS EVENT. DO YOU RECALL WHETHER YOUR REFLECTION WAS ONLY YOU AND YOUR MOTORCYCLE ...OR DID IT INCLUDE OTHER ITEMS WHICH WERE REFLECTED? WAS SAID REFLECTION CLEAR OR WAS IT OPAQUE OR WAVY LIKE HEAT RAYS RISING FROM AN ASPHALT SURFACE ON A HOT DAY? DO YOU RECALL WHETHER THE SUN WAS AT YOUR BACK AND OR WHETHER THERE WAS A REFLECTION OF THE SUN IN THE OBJECT? A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS OF QUERY...WAS THIS A FOUR SIDED STRUCTURE OR A THREE SIDED ITEM...IF YOU CAN REMEMBER ...DID THIS UNIT APPEAR LARGER AT THE BASE AND TAPER AS YOU REACH THE TIP OR VISE-VERSA? I KNOW YOUR BUSY AS I RUN A SWEAT EQUITY OPERATION MYSELF...HOWEVER...IF YOU CAN ANSWER THE ABOVE I WOULD BE GREATFUL AS OTHERS WHOM ARE FOLLOWING THIS THREAD. SHALOM...ZETAR
Thanks for your interesting story. Could it be that what you saw was put there temporarily by a human? For example, I was walking through an area once that I was familiar with, and came across a very odd looking mountain-like structure. At first I was astonished, caught off guard, and then I saw a couple of men come out from behind it, with tools. It was a prop they were building for a movie! There was a lot of filming going on for movies in that general area, so I wasn't too surprised. Is that a possibility for what you saw?
Thank you for your reply Slider, I can understand why you have spent the past years trying to figure this out ! Wow...I really envy you your experience.
My own feeling is that whatever it was you saw that day was interdimensional in origin. Perhaps the "building" is there all the time in its own dimension but something was triggered in your mind that day to enable you to see it.
Someone I know in the UK had a close up sighting of a very strange craft in '79. At the time of the sighting she was picking wild flowers and trying to identify them in a book she had with her, she told me she was completely absorbed in this task with nothing else on her mind at all. Similar to yourself looking forward to a ride on your motorcycle with all thoughts of everyday tasks in the background....
Many UFO sightings occur when people are driving, there again perhaps the monotony of driving triggers a change of mindset enabling the person to preceive something that would otherwise go unoticed ?
I am not for a moment suggesting this theory covers all UFO sightings, but in some cases it may possibly apply.
I'm wondering if when you were driving, you were relaxed, trying to de-stress and you went into a lucid dream state. This is where you can go from a normal waking state directly into a dream state with no apparent lapse in consciousness.
You say you were going 45mph, but you describe a lot of detail of the building, and were able to watch yourself pass the building and see yourself and the bike in it's reflection, this seems a lot for a 45mph pass by.
I'm guessing you drifted into a dream state and then woke up down the road. I have played around with this for a couple of years now and had lucid dreams and there is no difference between real world and dream world.
My apologies, no time to do the drawing tonight, however, it is indeed at the top of my list - I vow to have it done in the next day or so...
Meantime, I would like to add quick answers to the last four replies...
I indeed saw other reflections other than myself and the motorcycle - included were the trees on the other side of the road, as well as the reflection of the sun off the angular roof. I was riding a sweeping right-hand curve heading almost due north, which at 2:00 pm in July in Michigan would have put the sun high in the southern sky, essentially over my right shoulder. There were no heat waves or other distortion, again the stark clarity of the "building" was something I recall as remarkable. The reflection was clear, very mirror-like, and I recall it WAS in fact a mirror-image - the rider in the reflection was leaning his motorcycle to the left, of course mine was leaning right in the right-hand curve.
The structure was four-sided..the base of the building was a rectangle, and the "spire" was again a rectangle..the spire did not taper, it was a straight sided rectangle. The angular cut of the roof made the roof appear diamond shaped - it was truncated at two angles, i.e. angled upwards front to back, as well as angled upwards right to left. The drawing will clear all of this up nicely for you.
Definitely not a temporary structure - whatever this was would take us a long long time to create and the perfection of the construction rivals that of of a Las Vegas hotel. Movie set? Not in this little rural area - dairy farms, pick-up trucks, very rural living here. A movie being filmed around here would be the talk of the town for years - highly unlikely.
My wife and I discussed that very thing last evening - an interdimensionsal building. Not having much knowledge of interdimensional phenomena, one of our questions was if the building exists in another dimension, would it act as an obstacle to a farmer's tractor in this dimension? The sighting was in a fallowing farmer's field - with only short (3-6") scrub vegetation. In years past, however, it was most certainly a corn or soybean field, and tilled with heavy agricultural equipment. Wouldn't the farmer "run into" the interdimensional building?
I am a fairly agressive yet very careful motorcycle rider, and remain very observant any time I ride. Had even an inkling of a lucid state begun to come over me, I would have stopped the motorcycle immediately. Also, negotiating a sweeping curve on a bike requires continual control input (I "countersteer", which is pressing the right bar forward to negotiate a RH turn). Countersteering seems counter-intuitive, but anyone who rides understands the physics involved - the countersteer initiates the lean of the bike, which then "falls inward" through the turn. Where I'm going with this is that even a brief lapse of concentration during countersteer turn would cause a relaxation of control input and an inevitable crash, so I would say that rules out a lucid dream state...
Hopefully tomorrow will provide more time for a proper response.
Mabsey wrote I'm wondering if when you were driving, you were relaxed, trying to de-stress and you went into a lucid dream state. This is where you can go from a normal waking state directly into a dream state with no apparent lapse in consciousness.
I feel if Slider51 had drifted into an altered state of consciousness, while riding around a sweeping bend in the road, he would not be here now telling us his story.
Slider51, you may like to read this account: www.thelosthaven.co.uk/awakecontact.htm After reading your story, I feel if you were abducted whilst riding your motorcycle you are lucky to be alive. The link is to a story of a young man that was abducted while riding his motorcycle, which was not found out until after he sought help to find out why he had the accident, because he had no recollection of what happened to cause it. It's a very interesting read.
Slider, In answer to your question "would the farmer and his tractor run into the building," I dont think this would apply. Somehow at the time of your sighting, yourself and the "building" were in the same dimension. The farmer and his tractor would not be in that dimension, so for him the "building" would not exist.
When my husband was a child, he recalled something that happened to him one day when he was on his way to school, he was with a friend and they both stopped to watch some builders who were putting up some new houses. It was a warm summers afternoon. They both became aware of a lady beckoning them to her cottage, on the edge of the site, the two boys both went over and the lady asked them in for a drink of lemonade.
The next thing they remember was arriving at school only to find that it was just closing. Somehow they had lost a whole afternoon with no idea of where they had been what had happened. Both boys were reported to the headmistress and also landed in a lot of trouble with their parents.
My husband told his mother about the cottage and the old lady offering them a drink, but when they returned to the same place the next day, there was no sign of the cottage or its occupant. Years later when my husband first told me about this incident, I contacted his sister who was still living in the area and she made some enquires with local records offices and found that many years previously there had indeed been a row of cottages on the site where my husband had described but they had been knocked down many years previously.
So what was actually going on here ? Did my husband as a boy somehow go back in time and meet with a lady from another era, if so what could have triggered this event, was it a daydream state brought on by watching the builders on a warm sunny afternoon on the way to school ?
Perhaps something similar happened to you Slider, only instead of going back in time, you went forward and encountered a "building" from the future ?