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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 1:11:03 GMT
The Other Side Of The Coin(tel)
The UFO Trail Credible info on incredible topics Saturday, May 26, 2018 DIA: No Docs on NIDS The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) reported no documents responsive to an FOIA request for contracts undertaken with and funding provided to the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS). "Despite a thorough search, no documents responsive to your request were found," wrote Alesia Y. Williams, Chief, FOIA and Declassification Services Office, in a May 17 letter from the DIA. The initial Dec. 23, 2017 request sought records including a likely date range of 1995 to 2004, the years NIDS was an active nonprofit corporation. The now dissolved entity was founded by controversial philanthropist Robert Bigelow and is known for such ventures as research reportedly conducted on the now fabled Skinwalker Ranch. The latest FOIA swing and miss further questions the context of a public statement credited to Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) published in conjunction with an update from reporter George Knapp's team. Such references in the statement to viewing "the human body as a readout system for UFO effects by utilizing forensic technology, the tools of immunology, cell biology, genomics and neuroanatomy" led some researchers to suspect inferences to the Skinwalker project, as was directly claimed related to DIA-funded research by select members and associates of To The Stars Academy. It is unclear exactly how the Skinwalker Ranch may be involved with the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP), seemingly derived from the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), and funded by the DIA as reported in a high profile NY Times article and by a Pentagon spokesperson. Researcher Keith Basterfield identified longtime Bigelow associate Dr. Colm Kelleher as a likely author of the published BAASS statement. Kelleher and Knapp co-authored Hunt for the Skinwalker, a 2005 book about reportedly fantastic occurrences at the ranch. George Knapp Knapp's more recent work includes the publication of what he referred to as "an in-depth report prepared by and for the military" on what became known as the Tic Tac UFO incident. The source of the document was not revealed and it remains unauthenticated as of this writing, causing researchers such as John Greenewald to point out issues looming over the circumstances. Greenewald previously questioned the scope and depth of the Pentagon-UFO project as framed by the NY Times due to reasons including the continuing lack of FOIA responses and the relatively small amount of funding allocated, about $22 million. Moreover, the Times credited Pentagon spokesman Thomas Crossman with the statement, "It was determined that there were other, higher priority issues that merited funding, and it was in the best interest of the DoD to make a change." That same Times article stated, "Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological changes." Combined with BAASS statements about studying "the human body as a readout system for UFO effects," researchers might reasonably continue to seek accountability for details of exactly how such projects were initially designed, approved, and overseen. Were research subjects adequately informed of the circumstances? Who were the project personnel? What boards were used to evaluate and approve the work? Perhaps we will eventually obtain verified answers to such questions. It appears we must rely on the FOIA process, as individuals claiming involvement are proving poor sources of information. FOIA submissions to the DIA remain pending for contractual records, lists of funding recipients, resulting reports, and similar documents pertaining to the AATIP and AAWSAP. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 2:09:34 GMT
hmm aliens with ray gunz and shtuff sounds pretty material to me..you'd think a wall or a dome would be over the ranch or sometin'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 22:23:51 GMT
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." — Hunter S. Thompson
www.starpod.us/2013/01/18/to-catch-this-skinwalker-it-takes-a-thief/ media.breitbart.com/media/2015/01/reid1.jpg“In the years that followed [Bigelow’s purchase of the ranch] many extraordinary events would happen with our highly skilled scientists observing,” writes Alexander, “If there was one common factor to those events, it was that they had nothing in common with one another. As bizarre as many of the incidents were, they tended to be totally unique.” Alexander proposed one possible explanation for the odd reports: Precognitive Sentient Phenomena, or PSP. “The precognitive sentient phenomena concept suggests that there is some external controlling agent that initiates these events that are observed and reported,” writes Alexander, “It appears as though the agent not only determines all factors of the event, but is already aware of how the observers or researchers will respond to any given stimuli.” The key to catching the Skinwalker comes from another idea proposed by Alexander, that UFO (and other anomalous experiences) are projected directly into the brains of the the observers, manipulating their experience of reality.retired Col. John B. Alexander
Thanx colonel..I'm very familiar with that concept and process to induce it  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 22:48:57 GMT
Wow ..lookee here the woohoo trailer for the movie! ...after all..everyone has some skin in this game..some more than others. I bet the girls next door in the other channel will love this!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 23:20:30 GMT
Move over Roswell Rendelsham and Bentwaters..why let the yanks have all the fun? I mean..after all..just because something is staged or fake..like Skripal, white helmet rescues, and other false flags.....whats important is the synergy created afterwards.so you can do whatever it is you have to do..like flatten a target with with 100 very real cruise missiles....with peoples attention span in the range of a gnat.. and seeing this flurry of post event activities they will grudgingly or not accept its real and its being taken care of by the right people..no need to to bedevil onse self with the small details. In the meantime..have fun..with the skinwalker band from Cumbria, Uk! Hal is that Near You?
It's about time they got some musicians involved! The concert is friday June 15...way to go! Rock On.. Truth be told..I dont want to see our boyz miss out on this stellar opportunity..Zetar, Moksha, Clif should do their part too..and lets pump up some skin! 
Skinwalker formed more than a decade ago, and were the first local band to be played on CFM.
With four albums under their belts - Razor's Edge, Ong's Hat, Slide, and Borderland - their self-penned music draws influences from many sources, from The Who, Thin Lizzy, Journey, Bon Jovi, It Bites, Pat Travers, Iron Maiden and Metallica.
Frontman and bassist Kev Robinson is joined by guitarists Jim McClelland and Paul Doherty, drummer Mike Ellis, and keyboardist Jeff Downey.
The focus is on high energy, melodic hard rock, prog rock and thrash metal, with strong vocal hooks, pounding rhythms, and blues soaked guitar breaks.
Concentrating on material from the latest Borderlands album, the songs are inspired by the places, people and stories from Cumbria, including tracks such as Lakeside, Blue Wigton Eyes and Strangers in Borrowdale - about an alien invasion of Derwentwater.
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Post by nyx on Jun 13, 2018 0:33:56 GMT
I would like to know where the Bigelow warehouse is in downtown Las Vegas that has all the "out of this world" metals claimed by Luis Elizondo.
"What happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas" according to their TV tourist commercials.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 1:13:34 GMT
TV Commercials..I wonder what they are selling? The trick is to ignore the secret stash plans or whatever talk about..and after a while they will haul it out of the handimart storage unit and have a fire sale.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 2:00:17 GMT
While Dod was funding these clowns make no mistake it wasn't shopped to Darpa as well
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 2:24:36 GMT
watching a bunch of ex CIA NASA DOD retirees and gubbamin types is no fun..Lets spice it it with some navajo mythology.. cartoons..something even anime types and youngins' like.. "I din't tell my parents cuz I thought no one would believe us " is something even millennials living in a basement with their parents, telling them they spotted a possible job opening, can certainly connect with . Who would believe them?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 8:04:47 GMT
Do Ya REALLY wanna Know? From who gave Bob Lazar, Art Bell, LMH their start to the selling of abductee files and betrayal by Mufon and their own extortion financially by Bigelow..and the padding of Skinwalker..From Product to distribution.. Really a great Read..just page 1 alone
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 13:37:18 GMT
That said and done I must return to earliest part of of skinwalker at the point Antoine Gigal..a 20 plus year Egyptologist , fluent in sveral languages and very well traveled and who believes that an antedeluvian or preflood civilization existed going back 30000 years, (like the graham Hancock hypothesis)and that many of the elongated skulls found across cultures are either descendents or result of mimicking of the racial features as they were an uber class descendants of Gods. This does not explain how she became involved as an advisor to the ranch..as her interest is not ETs..and nothing in her repertoire indicates an interest in psychotronic devices..whether as weapons or detection of noncorporeal presences on the ranch...Truth be told her background lends itself to intelligence work , and she doees a great job explaining what really ha\ppened in Egypt during the Arab spring in rich detail..but that is speculation on my part, that I will keep an the back burner.. because after all..weren't they all connected to intelligence agencies According to Sarfatti’s account, the French woman “claimed an actual gun battle at Bigelow Ranch with Bob’s paramilitary against aliens out of the wormhole with dead and wounded humans. She was very convincing and Nick Cook heard the strange tale at his private London Club with me and another witness. I debriefed Kit Green and Ron Pandolfi soon after and the story caused a big stir.”
Pandolfi and Green are well known for their interest in unusual phenomena and their history of employment with the CIA.
I do need to look at Nick Cooks private club in London ..when I get the time..
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Post by lonegunman on Jun 13, 2018 14:04:50 GMT
I would like to know where the Bigelow warehouse is in downtown Las Vegas that has all the "out of this world" metals claimed by Luis Elizondo. "What happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas" according to their TV tourist commercials. It doesn't exist. Unless he has the property in some outlandish name, no property is listed under his name or any other known of his other than a house in what is now a drug infested area. I forget who it was that went looking but I remember seeing a thread about that on ATS many years ago ! |
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Post by thelmadonna on Jun 13, 2018 15:56:42 GMT
Who is Bigelow really? Was he born Bigelow? Is the property in his name or another. What dimensions would his warehouse need to be? How many of the properties of whatever size are in the area? Can the area be defined more?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 16:11:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 11:01:35 GMT
I found it..was in my face all the time..The year was 2004 FIE workshop Gigal is one of 4 females 8 males..wearing that very fashionable white hat that would make whitley Streiber drool..
www.starpod.us/2012/12/17/the-monsters-are-due-on-skinwalker-ranch/Ms. Gigal claimed to know Jacques Vallee — plausible, that Jacques phoned her to arrange a meeting in Paris,” Sarfatti explained, concerning the story he heard from Gigal, “That he was emotional and upset on the phone because of the fatalities in the firefight and that Bigelow was willing to give her group (not her alone) three million dollars to come to the ranch and help in the investigation. Now this is also what Nick Cook and Grant Stapleton heard.”
Now that part certainly escaped me..thats like 3 x what mufon got for its records plus having reporting done to another agency thereby emasculating Mufon..Little wonder Carrion did not trust the contract agreement. What insight could an Egyptologist provide to The Ranch.. If ex CIA had told jack not to go with the story and Bigelow himself alluded to it..just how diificult would it be to erase 2 bodies..with that kind of money involved? The best way is to say aliens ..and public would immediately dismiss it..of course...same as it ever was.
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