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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 10:59:42 GMT
Don't you ever learn. Piss Off. HAL Who are you directing this at?
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Post by HAL on Jun 23, 2019 17:00:31 GMT
Phil,
There was a spam post directly above your last.
It was a repeat of one that was posted about a week ago.
It appears that either a Mod removed it and didn't notify us, or the OP decided it would be fun to remove it and cause some confusion.
He/she succeeded.
HAL.
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Post by WingsofCrystal on Jun 23, 2019 17:02:35 GMT
Phil, There was a spam post directly above your last. It was a repeat of one that was posted about a week ago. It appears that either a Mod removed it and didn't notify us, of the OP decided it would be fun to remove it and cause some confusion. I'll remove my part in this. maybe you could do the same and we get back to a clean thread. HAL. I deleted it, sorry you weren't notified. Brain dead of me. I should have said.
No word yet whether we can ban unregistered guests from posting. I'll holler if I hear anything.
Crystal
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Post by swamprat on Jun 27, 2019 21:28:13 GMT
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Post by swamprat on Jun 30, 2019 14:56:38 GMT
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Post by swamprat on Jul 27, 2019 16:06:15 GMT
More politicians getting involved.....GOP lawmaker says he's 'concerned' over reported UFO sightings by Navy pilots By Victor Garcia | Fox News
July 26, 2019
Rep. Mark Walker, R-N.C., told Fox News Friday that he is "concerned" about recent reports by U.S. Navy pilots of encounters with unidentified aircraft that some have speculated could be otherworldly.
"We are concerned about it," Walker, a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, said on "Tucker Carlson Tonight." "As the ranking member of terrorism and counterintelligence, we have questions. It comes down to some of the new infrared radar systems that we're putting on some of our new jets are detecting some things out there."
In a letter to Navy Secretary Richard Spencer earlier this month, Walker relayed his concerns and asked for more information on what he referred to as unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP).
Specifically, Walker asked whether the Navy was still logging the reported sightings, fully investigating the origins of the accounts, and dedicating resources to track and investigate the claims.
Walker also asked Spencer in the letter if investigators had "found physical evidence or otherwise that substantiates these claims."
The Pentagon confirmed the existence of a program to investigate UFOs in 2017, but it is unclear if that is still operating.
The New York Times recently reported that Navy pilots said they saw “strange objects” with “no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes” flying at hypersonic speeds at an elevation of 30,000 feet along the East Coast.
Politico reported last month that three senators received a briefing from the Pentagon on the encounters.
"There must be theories about what these objects are what these aircraft are," Carlson told Walker. "What's the most plausible theory, do you think?"
"We don't know for sure," Walker said. "The question that we're wanting to get to is, is this something that's a defense mechanism from another country?"
www.foxnews.com/media/rep-walker-tells-tucker-carlson-hes-concerned-over-reports-of-ufo-sightings-by-navy-pilots
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Post by swamprat on Jul 28, 2019 14:32:09 GMT
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Post by swamprat on Aug 12, 2019 2:10:35 GMT
George posted this on Facebook last year..... Would tend to make one think the Tic Tac encounters really happened.....
George Knapp
June 18, 2018
One day after the now-famous Tic Tac UFO encounter, this cartoon began circulating on board the USS Princeton. It was sent to me last week from one of the USS Princeton crew members (whose name has not been made public.) After the radio show last night, Kevin was put in touch with his ex shipmate and he received a copy as well.
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Post by swamprat on Aug 18, 2019 21:09:52 GMT
Newly Revealed Emails Shed Light on Release of Navy UFO Videos Alejandro Rojas | August 18, 2019
The UFO community has made much ado about the release of three videos showing alleged UFOs captured by Navy jet fighters. The New York Times first released two of the videos in their December 16, 2017 article Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program. The videos along with a third were soon also released by To the Stars Academy (TTSA). According to Luis Elizondo, who ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Program (AATIP) which looked investigated military UFO cases, these videos demonstrated some of the cases AATIP studied.
Via correspondence with researcher John Greenewald who runs theblackvault.com, a spokesperson with the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) had denied the Department of Defense (DoD) “released videos related to [AATIP].”
Soon after making that claim, KLAS investigative journalist George Knapp released a leaked document (Form DD1910) that showed otherwise. Form DD1910s are used in the DoD to request the public release of DoD information. Greenewald asked OSD Public Affairs to verify the veracity of the document and received confirmation the document was real.
This was not the first time OSD Public Affairs got it wrong. They had claimed AATIP had nothing to do with UFOs. Later they recanted that claim telling the New York Post that AATIP “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena.”
You can read more about the DD190 in my previous article: DoD Confirms They Released Navy F-18 FLIR UFO Videos: alejandrotrojas.com/2019/08/17/dod-confirms-they-released-navy-f-18-flir-ufo-videos-2/
However, the full statement given to the New York Post, and the statement given to Greenewald about the videos sowed more doubt. Although the New York Post did not include the full statement in their article, researcher Roger Glassel was able to get a copy from the OSD Public Affairs office.
The full paragraph confirming the veracity of the DD190 reads:
“I can confirm that the form DD1910 you asked about is a valid DD1910. The standard procedure is for blocks 1-7 on the form to be filled out by the submitter before sending to DOPSR [Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review]; however, occasional exceptions have occurred. The submitter is responsible for any disclaimers on the form as approved, and also abiding by any amendments that may be included in additional communications from DOPSR to the submitter as part of the approval process. Per block 3 of this form DD1910, the submitter requested release of the videos solely for research and analysis purposes by the US government agencies and industry partners, and not for general public release.”
The last sentence caused some concern that the videos being released via The New York Times and the TTSA website violated the conditions of the DD1910 as they were not intended for general public release. Under the section titled “PRESENTATION/PUBLICATION DATA” appears the verbiage: “Not applicable. Not for publication. Research and analysis ONLY and info sharing with other USG and industry partners for the purpose of developing a database to help identify, analyze, and ultimately defeat UAS threats.”
I suggested that the idea the videos were not released for public consumption is not clear. There is a large stamp on the form that says “CLEARED For Open Publication.” The instructions for submitting DOPSR requests states that the status of “Cleared” means “The information may be released without restriction by the originating DoD Component or its authorized official.” If the information is not for public release, it is stamped with “Not Cleared for Public Release.”
I also suggested that TTSA might qualify as an industry partner. As for The New York Times, I noted that although many assume Elizondo provided the videos to them, one of the authors of the AATIP article, Leslie Kean, told me Elizondo was not their source.
Greenewald disagreed with my suggestions and asked for clarification. OSD Public Affairs responded that “The New York Times and To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences would not have been considered an industry partner to the USG for the research efforts identified in [the PRESENTATION/PUBLICATION DATA section] of the DD 1910.”
However, OSD also added “At this time, I am not aware of any document or reference that defines the term, ‘industry partners.'”
I feel the last sentence negates the prior response. If OSD Public Affairs is unsure what defines an industry partner, how can they determine who is and who isn’t one? Earlier comments on AATIP have demonstrated they have had little information on how AATIP operates, and their previous assumptions have turned out to be wrong. They seem to be overstepping their bounds by presuming they would be able to answer this question.
The responses given to Greenewald and Glassel also imply the videos have been mishandled and released in a manner the DoD did not intend them to be released.
Fortunately, Glassel has received more information that appears to clear some of this up. In response to a FOIA request, Glassel received a set of emails that clarifies a few points. The emails are between Elizondo and other DoD employees regarding the release of the videos. In the emails, it is clear Elizondo was the one who requested the release of the videos and submitted the DD1910. The DOPSR official Elizondo was in contact with was Michael Russo.
The emails show that after Elizondo submitted the DD1910, Russo was confirming with the agency responsible for the videos, referred to as the Originating Case Agency (OCA). The emails reference a Navy point of contact (POC) whose name is redacted.
The emails included an interesting exchange that seems to show that the DoD had no issues with a full public release. The conversation indicates that Elizondo was the one who wanted to restrict access to the videos, not the DoD.
Elizondo clearly outlines his intentions for the videos. He writes, the “data” is “to be accessible by stakeholders such as DIA, the Navy, Defense Industry partners, and perhaps even State, Local & Tribal authorities to catalog and identify specific UAS threats to national security and/or DoD equities.”
This is slightly different than the verbiage used on the DD1910, but similar in intent.
Russo did not appear to be concerned about any restrictions.
“If the Service-level OCA verifies to me (simple one-sentence email is fine) that removing the metadata from the videos makes them UNCLASSIFIED,” writes Russo, “please feel free to move forward with release.”
Lue apparently took that to mean Russo wanted to release the videos unrestricted and responded: “If it is easier for you or more streamline, then please consider our request for unrestricted release. However, my intent is to maintain positive control but I know it’s a bit unique of a situation so whatever is easier for you and quicker.”
Ultimately, the DD1910 was stamped “CLEARED For Open Publication.” Given this conversation, it would appear there was not an issue with an open release of the videos on the DoD side of the exchange.
I think that resolves any issue with the release of the videos. I think it also gives us an idea as to who would be the best person to determine who would qualify as an industry partner. I do not believe that responsibility would lie with the OSD Public Affairs department, it would lie with the person who defined the restrictions for the release of the videos, Elizondo.
There is one more outstanding issue that was brought up in the full statement provided the New York Post that Glassel released. The statement admits “The AATIP program did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena.” However it continues, “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI, up until he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”
So Elizondo was not part of AATIP, just like the DoD never released these videos (sarcasm). This is an especially strange statement by OSD Public Affairs given that Elizondo is the one who exposed the existence of AATIP, and all involved have confirmed his participation. A document created by AATIP sponsor Harry Reid lists Elizondo as member of AATIP. This DD1910 email string further acknowledged Elizondo’s involvement in AATIP.
It is hard to say why the OSD Public Affairs department has been making statements that have later been contradicted by official documentation. In their defense, Reid told the New York Times the program was secretive, and its creators did not want its existence known. It is tough to find details about AATIP by design.
alejandrotrojas.com/2019/08/18/newly-revealed-emails-shed-light-on-release-of-navy-ufo-videos/?fbclid=IwAR311zc39hiS00kkrOHQM4iQPvnyjupHgBPsZNcxRsXz3tqx7UZkClJFgXI
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Post by swamprat on Aug 19, 2019 20:16:01 GMT
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Post by swamprat on Aug 20, 2019 22:25:16 GMT
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Post by swamprat on Aug 27, 2019 0:53:42 GMT
The TTSA Virtual Analytics UAP Learning Tool It is the mission of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science to collaborate with global citizens in order to help push science, technology, and ultimately humanity forward. To help accomplish this, we plan on building a powerful and robust community of interest platform called the Virtual Analytics UAP Learning Tool (VAULT) where we can enable interdisciplinary collaboration on reporting and analysis of anomalies among the public at large, academia, industry partners, government and every level of law enforcement.
Our vision is to collect, triage, and partition signature data, utilizing forensic and scientific methodology, into a central database that can be used to shed light on anomalies, trends, and patterns. We believe these data, when analyzed rigorously, could lead to a better understanding of our reality, including some of the most fascinating and mysterious phenomena in the universe. In turn, our vision is to involve the public with the discovery of revolutionary breakthroughs in science and technology. TTS Academy Releases Details For The VAULT, The World’s Most Comprehensive UAP Intelligence Tool TTSA Also Completes Beta iOS for SCOUT, A Mobile Application For Public Data Collection To Work In Conjunction With The VAULT
To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA) is excited to release additional details about their initiative to build the world’s most comprehensive intelligence tool for collecting, analyzing, and reporting unidentified aerial phenomena. Named The VAULT, an acronym for Virtual Analytics UAP Learning Tool, the robust database will serve as an instrument for repository and research.
The VAULT’s functionality will include the collection, storage, search, and analysis of information regarding all events, eyewitness accounts, and data recordings that could shed light on anomalous advanced technology and capabilities world-wide. The database will be able to ingest various formats, languages, and data sources ranging from civilian, industry, academia, law enforcement, the United States Government, and other sovereign entities. This also includes data sets from aviation authorities, climatic data, sonar, and other like-sources.
The VAULT will utilize artificial intelligence and machine learning to triage and partition large amounts of information in order to discover signatures and patterns that could shed additional insight on the phenomenon. Initially introduced as TTSA’s online Community of Interest, The VAULT will be a cornerstone of the company’s mission to advance human knowledge through collection, exploration, and sharing of information about the advanced technologies and physics associated with UAPs. As the database expands and TTSA’s proprietary algorithms progress, the company is focused not only on the opportunity for learning and understanding, but also the commercial viability of having access to data on this scale.
“This is a first-of-its-kind capability that will enable both governments and global citizens to better understand the phenomena and move forward towards solving what many consider to be the greatest mystery in human history,” says Lue Elizondo, TTSA Director of Special Programs. “Perhaps, it may even lead to our ability to understand ourselves and our place in the cosmos.”
To further expand the scope of TTSA’s effort, The VAULT will include an interactive public interface that will facilitate real-time uploads, downloads, alerting, and analysis. The downloadable mobile application will be called SCOUT, an acronym for the Signature Collection of UAPs Tracker. Data obtained by SCOUT will enable real-time, global collaboration that will contribute vital information to The VAULT.
To jumpstart the project, TTSA acquired an existing application to serve as the interactive collection module. Formerly called Project Capture, the company has been working the last few months to enhance, upgrade, and incorporate the module into the platform. Great progress has been made in the initial development of SCOUT, and the beta iOS version has been completed. Work is currently underway to finalize the Android and web versions.
TTSA also plans to use SCOUT to publish compelling information related to The VAULT, including documents analyzed by TTSA’s world-class team of experts, podcasts, and interviews.
The company anticipates the beta version of the app to be released on both iOS and Android before the end of 2019. Those who wish to be notified of the release can sign up to TTSA’s newsletter on the company’s website.
Let the possibilities abound.
thevault.tothestarsacademy.com/
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Post by swamprat on Sept 17, 2019 19:30:44 GMT
UFO videos are footage of real 'unidentified' objects, US Navy acknowledges By Chris Ciaccia | Fox News | September 17, 2019
For the first time, the U.S. Navy has acknowledged that the three UFO videos that were released by former Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge and published by The New York Times are of real "unidentified" objects.
“The Navy considers the phenomena contained/depicted in those three videos as unidentified," Navy spokesman Joseph Gradisher told The Black Vault, a website dedicated to declassified government documents.
Gradisher added that “the ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena’ terminology is used because it provides the basic descriptor for the sightings/observations of unauthorized/unidentified aircraft/objects that have been observed entering/operating in the airspace of various military-controlled training ranges.”
The statement has been corroborated with other media outlets. Fox News has reached out to the Navy for additional comment for this story.
The videos in question, known as "FLIR1,” “Gimbal” and “GoFast,” were originally released to the New York Times and to The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA). In December 2017, Fox News reported that the Pentagon had secretly set up a program to investigate UFOs at the request of former Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.
In June 2019, Reid, now retired, expressed his desire for lawmakers to hold public hearings into what the military knows. "They would be surprised how the American public would accept it," he said during a wide-ranging interview with a Nevada radio station. "People from their individual states would accept it."
The first video of the unidentified object was taken on Nov. 14, 2004, and shot by the F-18's gun camera. The second video was taken on Jan. 21, 2015, and shows another aerial vehicle with pilots commenting on how strange it is. The third video was also taken on Jan. 21, 2015, but it is unclear whether the third video was of the same object or a different one.
John Greenewald, Jr., who publishes The Black Vault, told Motherboard he was surprised at the language the Navy used in its official statement.
“I very much expected that when the U.S. military addressed the videos, they would coincide with language we see on official documents that have now been released, and they would label them as ‘drones’ or ‘balloons,’” Greenwald told the news outlet. “However, they did not. They went on the record stating the ‘phenomena’ depicted in those videos, is ‘unidentified.’ That really made me surprised, intrigued, excited and motivated to push harder for the truth.”
Luis Elizondo, the former head of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), has previously said that people should pay attention to the comments the government is making about UFOs.
"What the pilots encountered that day was able to perform in ways that defied all logic and our current understanding of aerodynamics," Elizondo wrote in a Fox News op-ed of the 2004 encounter by U.S. Navy pilots who witnessed the object off the coast of San Diego. "Furthermore, beyond what the pilots saw with their own trained eye, the technological feat they encountered was further verified by the impressive Aegis SPY-1 radar, America’s premier radar system at the time, and even gun camera footage and sonar systems from submarines accompanying the carrier.
Earlier this year, the Navy issued new classified guidelines on how to report such instances “in response to unknown, advanced aircraft flying into or near Navy strike groups or other sensitive military facilities and formations.”
The Defense Department also briefed Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., in June, along with two other senators, as part of what appeared to be heightened efforts to inform politicians about naval encounters with unidentified aircraft.
Warner's spokesperson indicated that the senator sought to probe safety concerns surrounding "unexplained interference" naval pilots faced, according to Politico. The outlet reported more briefings were being requested as news surfaced that the Navy revised its procedures for personnel reporting on unusual aircraft sightings.
President Trump said he has been briefed on Navy pilots' reported sightings of unidentified flying objects, but remained skeptical of the existence of UFOs. "I want them to think whatever they think," Trump told ABC News' George Stephanopolous earlier this year, referring to the Navy pilots. "I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they’re seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly."
www.foxnews.com/tech/ufo-videos-real-navy-acknowledges
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Post by gus on Sept 18, 2019 5:48:15 GMT
Wow
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Post by nyx on Sept 18, 2019 18:21:10 GMT
I am with you Gus,
You would think the navy or the Pentagon saying these are real UFOs would cause more people to notice, but as you can see not so much.
I am a little suspicious on how supposedly classified information got into the public for viewing.
I assume our government is more careful with classified secrets.
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