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Post by nyx on Jan 10, 2020 20:39:29 GMT
If you do not have a special driver’s license from your state or a Passport, you will not be able to board any plane in the U.S. on October 1, 2020.
I do not know about your state but Tennessee’s driver’s license stations can not handle the crowd, long waiting times only to get worse.
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Post by WingsofCrystal on Jan 10, 2020 22:58:16 GMT
If you do not have a special driver’s license from your state or a Passport, you will not be able to board any plane in the U.S. on October 1, 2020. I do not know about your state but Tennessee’s driver’s license stations can not handle the crowd, long waiting times only to get worse. Hi nyx,
Arizona is the same way. The Husband and I let our passports lapse so now I'm going to renew them before 1 October 2020.
If I'm going to all this trouble I want a passport, not a "special" Arizona drivers license.
Crystal
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Post by nyx on Jan 10, 2020 23:33:15 GMT
I agree go for the passport.
On TV news, they showed people not bringing the right documents for the special license and turning these mad people away.
The license requirement are very precise for what information the center wants.
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Post by HAL on Jan 11, 2020 20:25:35 GMT
What if you are banned from driving ?
Or unable to drive, underage etc ?
Does that mean you can't fly ?
HAL.
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Post by swamprat on Jan 11, 2020 20:39:19 GMT
What if you are banned from driving ? Or unable to drive, underage etc ? Does that mean you can't fly ? HAL. No, I think it means you have to get a passport, even for domestic flights.
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Post by HAL on Jan 12, 2020 15:50:19 GMT
Could be. But there are people who can't get passports (criminals etc), how will they get about ?
I have always had to present my passport for internal UK flights.
Not sure if that is the rule or just something I do naturally.
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Post by nyx on Jan 12, 2020 17:07:02 GMT
Homeland Security now runs all state driver license programs, so if you do not have a passport or special driver’s license after 10/2020, take a bus or train.
After 10/2020 you must have a passport or special license to enter a federal building.
Put the blame on Homeland Security.
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Post by Luvey1 on Jan 20, 2020 14:59:26 GMT
Homeland Security now runs all state driver license programs, so if you do not have a passport or special driver’s license after 10/2020, take a bus or train. After 10/2020 you must have a passport or special license to enter a federal building. Put the blame on Homeland Security. I think the blame sits with those who continually don't do the right thing... I worked in local government in Australia for many years and laws had to be made due to people who would disrupt and ruin other people lives... Laws had to be made to curtail the activity. I think if you need a special drivers license or a passport to fly it would be for a valid reason.... we don't need a passport to fly interstate here in Australia, but to fly anywhere else we need a passport. We had to update ours to fly to America for a holiday recently... we had let ours lapse.
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Post by mryelm on Jan 22, 2020 21:30:29 GMT
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Post by mryelm on Jan 22, 2020 21:35:20 GMT
for some reason my replies are not being posted I will try again later....
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Post by mryelm on Jan 22, 2020 21:35:39 GMT
well that one worked!
Now to try the cut and paste that wouldn't post earlier!
I agree with your reply. And there is more than the DL that is messed up. Do you feel more safe by complicating the passport DL issuance etc? I feel less safe because what I see is creeping fascism from the right and socialism from the left trying to insert their selves into the heart of our nation. I have talked a lot of people and most of them agree that 'something' is not right with our government. The driver license/passport scheme is only a tiny part of a what I believe to be malevolent spider like organization that has enough 'legs' to touch every American. Fatherland security is like a leg of that spider, it's a semi-clandestine (hidden in plain sight) centralized FEDERAL police force that combines the resources of all public or private agencies that gather and uses information relating to all citizens to be used against us. I believe that one day either by creeping crud or by a violent coup our representative /constitutional democracy will be challenged by those bent on overthrowing our government without firing a shot and installing a of totalitarian government that is a form of socialism or fascism.
Yes, I know I am conspiracy theory type, I offered that up in my intro or somewhere. This stuff is so obvious even a person that is not afflicted with conspiracy theoryitis' should be able to connect some of the dots? The coup almost succeeded in part via trying to remove Trump. The FBI and many top democrats are involved, and I am still angry that the perps are not behind bars. Why is that? We go to jail for cheating a bit on income tax but those traitors walk.
Yay! its working again, the above is a reply I wrote hours earlier ~
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Post by plutronus on Jan 22, 2020 21:41:20 GMT
I agree go for the passport. On TV news, they showed people not bringing the right documents for the special license and turning these mad people away. The license requirement are very precise for what information the center wants. That's because they didn't either bother to read the government notifications detailing required identification documents or they can't read English.
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Post by mryelm on Jan 23, 2020 14:42:14 GMT
I agree go for the passport. On TV news, they showed people not bringing the right documents for the special license and turning these mad people away. The license requirement are very precise for what information the center wants. That's because they didn't either bother to read the government notifications detailing required identification documents or they can't read English.
I was shocked when I read about something that has been around for years. The 'Real ID Act' was implemented anew in 2011 after it was killed off during Bush's Presidency because it was so unpopular. Actually the Department of Homeland (Fatherland?) Security was forced to delay implementation of it several times before that! So now all driver’s licenses issued in the United States are required to conform to federal national security standards. This amounts to a federal ID, something that is very dangerous to our freedoms and aren't needed! Are you ready to show your 'papers' to the authorities? What's next road blocks and checkpoints? That like the 'Fatherland' Security Act smacks too much of Nazi Germany for my tastes.
Photo of Bush and the Obama caricature are Royalty Free stock photos from the web.
The photo below is a duty free photoshopped Obama photo. For the record I am not a democrat or a Republican, I vote the issues, not the party or man.
I do not trust most anyone of authority, the more power they wield, the less I trust them (usually). I really , really truly do not like what I (we) am seeing currently from the Presidency on down. I do think Trump is not as fearsome as other mega powerful people, so far. And, it's what I don't see that keeps me awake at night. Sweet dreams all ! ~ ; {>
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 16:03:35 GMT
That's because they didn't either bother to read the government notifications detailing required identification documents or they can't read English.
I was shocked when I read about something that has been around for years. The 'Real ID Act' was implemented anew in 2011 after it was killed off during Bush's Presidency because it was so unpopular. Actually the Department of Homeland (Fatherland?) Security was forced to delay implementation of it several times before that! So now all driver’s licenses issued in the United States are required to conform to federal national security standards. This amounts to a federal ID, something that is very dangerous to our freedoms and aren't needed! Are you ready to show your 'papers' to the authorities? What's next road blocks and checkpoints? That like the 'Fatherland' Security Act smacks too much of Nazi Germany for my tastes.
For the record I am not a democrat or a Republican, I vote the issues, not the party or man.
I do not trust most anyone of authority, the more power they wield, the less I trust them (usually). I really , really truly do not like what I (we) am seeing currently from the Presidency on down. I do think Trump is not as fearsome as other mega powerful people, so far. And, it's what I don't see that keeps me awake at night. Sweet dreams all ! ~ ; {>
This is a quick note, and you may know this already, but FYI. Republican – smaller government, less government intervention with regulations and permits red tape. Lower taxes to stimulate growth. More emphasis on individual entrepreneurship, self-reliance, positive work ethic, less reliance on the federal government, capitalist system. Democrat – larger federal government, more regulations and higher taxes to pay for federal programs. Concept is that the federal government can intervene in your personal life and provide a better living environment then you could accomplish on your own through various federal agencies and programs. Cradle to grave philosophy As a former federal employee, I always looked forward to a Democratic government because I knew there’d be greater opportunities for program expansion, bonuses, and promotions. Which of course I would welcome. As a retired federal employee, I am entirely supportive of a Republican administration. At one time the Democrat party was a genuine party with dedicated reasonable representatives. Now it’s been revealed how desperate and depraved they are as their only focus regardless of consequences is control and power by the elimination of trump by any means. Basically, an entrenched deep state organizing a coup to take the president down. This is shocking to me.
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Post by SysConfig on Jan 23, 2020 17:56:19 GMT
interesting..One skins the bark off the tree from from the Bottom up..and the other skins it from the Top down...the only problem I see is that 550 billionnaire bought out the lobbysists on Both sides..some time ago..and want to keep it that way..Now...You'all Rake up that bark before it starts festerin'
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