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Post by nyx on Aug 16, 2019 1:31:02 GMT
The U.S. has a lot of military interest in Greenland.
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Post by buzzbomb on Aug 17, 2019 17:56:38 GMT
That's not what Trump's interest is.
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Post by nyx on Aug 19, 2019 1:19:27 GMT
As of late today, Sunday, Trump still says Greenland will be his.
Denmark is in disbelief that Trump is still talking about this issue.
Trump claims that Greenland costs Denmark about 800 million to a billion dollars a year, so they have no choice but to sell Greenland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 6:12:27 GMT
As of late today, Sunday, Trump still says Greenland will be his. Denmark is in disbelief that Trump is still talking about this issue. Trump claims that Greenland costs Denmark about 800 million to a billion dollars a year, so they have no choice but to sell Greenland. I am sure the danes are aware of the strategic value too..and while we can print bogus money..I think the danes would go the Viking route and demand gold..at any figure.. If Donald Trump asked why not? The Danes would probably say..because its you ..The only ones with gold are Russia and China. Canada also has a competitive interest in here too
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Post by nyx on Aug 19, 2019 16:48:26 GMT
China controls most of the earth’s rare minerals.
Greenland’s Kvanefjeld Mine In Narsaq, Greenland is full of rare metals and minerals and diamonds.
It has come to light that the area around Narsaq is the the 5th largest deposit of uranium.
If the U.S. takes over there will be a modern day uranium rush tearing up the land.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 17:03:21 GMT
China controls most of the earth’s rare minerals. Greenland’s Kvanefjeld Mine In Narsaq, Greenland is full of rare metals and minerals and diamonds. It has come to light that the area around Narsaq is the the 5th largest deposit of uranium. If the U.S. takes over there will be a modern day uranium rush tearing up the land. Maybe Isis will make a sudden appearance like they did in Afghanistan when Trump announced a peace deal with Taliban and withdrawal..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 4:28:07 GMT
www.rt.com/news/466935-trump-greenland-denmark-meeting/Trump CANCELS meeting with Danish PM after she refuses to discuss selling Greenland US President Donald Trump has cancelled a meeting with the Danish PM after she unequivocally shot down his dreams of purchasing resource-rich Greenland, a much-memed possibility about which the president was quite serious. Trump thanked PM Mette Frederiksen for being “so direct” and sparing “a great deal of expense and effort” for both countries, which apparently have few pressing matters to discuss absent the gigantic and seemingly absurd real-estate purchase. The meeting, scheduled for two weeks into the future, would be postponed “for another time,” the president tweeted on Monday. Frederiksen refused to even entertain the possibility, calling the purchase “absurd” and explaining more than once that “Greenland is not for sale” - and that it isn’t Denmark’s to sell, anyway. Trump, for his part, has floated the idea of purchasing the landmass multiple times, musing that “it would be nice” for strategic purposes. The US already has an airbase on Greenland, and Trump had apparently reasoned that because Denmark is an ally of the US, it would be willing to part with the land, the administration of which costs $700 million annually. However, the island is home to 55,000 people, many of whom are Danish nationals and probably have mixed feelings about becoming US subjects. It has its own Prime Minister and controls its own domestic affairs, though Copenhagen takes care of its military defense and foreign policy. Danish politicians echoed their leader’s dismissal of the American offer, calling the idea “completely ridiculous” and an “April fool’s joke,” and even Trump seemed to find the humor in the possibility, tweeting a photoshopped image of a solid gold Trump Tower in the middle of a Greenland village with the tagline “I promise not to do this to Greenland!”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 4:53:11 GMT
Some Interesting FactoidsWorld War II After the German occupation of Denmark on 9 April 1940, Henrik Kauffmann, Danish Ambassador to the United States, made an agreement "In the name of the king" with the United States, authorizing the United States to defend the Danish colonies on Greenland from German aggression – this agreement faced Kauffmann with a charge of high treason by the protectorate Government. The first US-sponsored installations at Thule were established after the US Secretary of State Cordell Hull and the defected Danish Minister to the United States Henrik Kauffmann signed The Agreement relating to the Defense of Greenland in Washington, D.C. on the symbolically chosen date of 9 April 1941. The treaty, denounced by the Danish government, allowed the United States to operate military bases in Greenland "for as long as there is agreement" that the threat to North America existed. Beginning in the summer of 1941, the US Coast Guard and the War Department established weather and radio stations at Narsarsuaq Airport (Bluie West-1), Sondrestrom Air Base (Bluie West-8), Ikateq (Bluie East Two), and Gronnedal (Bluie West-9). In 1943 the Army Air Forces set up weather stations Scoresbysund (Bluie East-3) on the east coast around the southern tip of Greenland, and Thule (Bluie West-6) to be operated by Danish personnel. Many other sites were set up, but BW-6, isolated in the far North, was then of very minor importance.[5] Size of proposed missile complex According to the documents published by the Kingdom of Denmark in 1997, the U.S. Army's "Iceworm" missile network was outlined in a 1960 Army report titled "Strategic Value of the Greenland Icecap". If fully implemented, the project would cover an area of 52,000 square miles (130,000 km2), roughly three times the size of Denmark. The launch complex floors would be 28 feet (8.5 m) below the surface, with the missile launchers even deeper, and clusters of missile launch centers would be spaced 4 miles (6.4 km) apart. New tunnels were to be dug every year, so that after five years there would be thousands of firing positions, among which the several hundred missiles could be rotated. The Army intended to deploy a shortened, two-stage version of the U.S. Air Force's Minuteman missile, a variant the Army proposed calling the Iceman.[9] Sheet ice elasticity Although the Greenland icecap appears, on its surface, to be hard and immobile, snow and ice are viscoelastic materials, which slowly deform over time, depending on temperature and density. Despite its seeming stability, the icecap is, in fact, in constant, slow movement, spreading outward from the center. This spreading movement, over the course of a year, causes tunnels and trenches to narrow, as their walls deform and bulge, eventually leading to a collapse of the ceiling. By mid-1962 the ceiling of the reactor room within Camp Century had dropped and had to be lifted 5 feet (1.5 m). During a planned reactor shutdown for maintenance in late July 1963, the Army decided to operate Camp Century as a summer-only camp and did not reactivate the PM-2A reactor. The camp resumed operations in 1964 using its standby diesel power plant, the portable reactor was removed that summer, and the camp was abandoned altogether in 1966.[10]Ecological impact See also: Greenland ice sheet § The melting ice sheet, and Global warming in the Arctic When the camp was decommissioned in 1967, its infrastructure and waste were abandoned under the assumption they would be entombed forever by perpetual snowfall. A 2016 study found that the portion of the ice sheet covering Camp Century will start to melt by 2100, if current trends continue.[11] When the ice melts, the camp’s infrastructure, as well as remaining biological, chemical and radioactive waste, will re-enter the environment and potentially disrupt nearby
ecosystems. This includes 200,000 liters of diesel, PCBs and radioactive waste.[12][13][14]
So We are essentially there as long as we percieve a threat to North America....and certainly with both Russia China flexing arctic muscle ..that threat remains eternal..as the US sees it. The economy is a national security matter..so it wont take a rocket scientist to figure what this is leading to. Denmark has just found itself in the cross hairs of 3 empires..I would hate to be in its snowshoes right now..But this was an empty gesture by Trump..but a very polite and not so veiled message it will not tolerate any Chinese business in Greenland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 9:41:59 GMT
After a Thorough search into Denmark China Trade..I am forced to revise and add the term Brilliant to Trumps move
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 17:29:27 GMT
Riddle me this..Why would Denmark even consider allowing the Chinese construction of 3 Airports and Rare Earth & Uranium Mining rights in the most Pristeen Ecosystem & Human habitable Area on Earth? We know what happened to the Amazon forests in Ecuador with both American and Chinese Oil Interests. Flora, Fauna and Natives were savaged beyond recovery. . It's own mining for gold has poisoned rivers with mercury.
That said..Denmarks corporate interest obviously took priority over Greenlands small fishing and eco-tourist trade and its natives 55k interests in an area 3 x the size of Texas. Its clear here that Greenlands autonomous zone is autonomous until it aint.
This from the kuku site which makes more sense than the idiots laughing and bashing Trump catastrophic geopolitical consequence of the Obama Regime announcing in 2013 that the “era of the Monroe Doctrine is over”, this report concludes, provided the opening Communist China needed to begin flooding Greenland with rare Earth mining investments and its proposing to build three major airports there—that in turn has now set off a security panic in NATO involving a nightmare vision about Greenland getting so deep in debt to Chinese banks that it would end up letting these communists operate military aircraft from those airports—which President Trump himself is trying to quell by his offering to outright buy Greenland from Demark like Democrat Party President Harry Truman tried to do in the 1950’s—an offer quickly rebuffed by Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen which, in turn, saw Trump immediately cancelling his 2 September visit with her—but was wise enough not to push too far and saw her saying that she is “open to an increased US military presence in Greenland”—but which she knows she couldn’t stop anyway even if she wanted to as Greenland is a military protected Monroe Doctrine protectorate of the United States—and all of which Trump is dealing with in his typical sardonic (grimly mocking) style saying he doesn’t plan to build one of his giant hotels there with his stating “I promise not to do this to Greenland!”—but is a promise that doesn’t include what he’s going to do with his new “Project Iceworm” nuclear missiles that will blow Communist China, if needed, out of Greenland forever. www.globalconstructionreview.com/news/chinese-firm-pulls-out-420m-greenland-airports-sch/A major component of China’s expanding interests in the Arctic, as outlined in Beijing’s January 2018 White Paper on the region, has been the development of joint ventures on resource extraction, including fossil fuels and raw materials. While Russia has been receiving the lion’s share of attention in the area of Chinese resource diplomacy in the Arctic, with the China-supported Yamal liquefied natural gas project being a major example, Greenland is emerging as another key component of Beijing’s emerging ‘Ice Silk Road.’ As the Greenland Ice Sheet continues to erode due to regional climate change (a paper published last month by the U.S. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science concluded that ice loss on the island has been accelerating significantly since the start of this century), more parts of Greenland’s coastal regions are opening up to potential mining projects. The island is seen as an emerging source of base and precious metals as well as gemstones, uranium, and rare earth elements (REEs). Given ongoing demand for these resources in China, Chinese firms have increased their visibility in Greenland. At present, China represents over 90 percent of global rare earth extraction, but Greenland has the possibility of becoming another major hub for REE mining given estimated supplies. Chinese investment does present economic opportunities for Greenland, which has been seeking to diversify its economy away from a concentration on seafood, as well as the annual stipend given to the Greenland government by Denmark. But there may also be considerable political effects related to growing unease in Copenhagen —and the United States, which maintains a Air Force base at Thule — regarding expanded Chinese economic diplomacy on the island. Enjoying this article? Click here to subscribe for full access. Just $5 a month. The most visible Chinese mining joint venture in Greenland thus far has been the Kvanefjeld Project in southern Greenland, namely a planned uranium and REE (neodymium, dysprosium, and yttrium, among others) mine, overseen by Australia-based Greenland Minerals, in partnership with China’s Shenghe Resources, which specializes in REE extraction. In 2016, the two parties agreed to give the Chinese firm a 12.5 percent stake in the project. In August of last year, Greenland Minerals completed a memorandum of understanding with Shenghe, which would see the latter firm take the lead in the processing and marketing of material extracted from the Kvanefjeld site. In January this year, further steps were taken toward commencing mining operations when it was announced that Shenghe would be partnering with another Chinese firm, China National Nuclear Corporation, to enhance the procedure for separating REEs from uranium and thorium deposits at the Kvanefjeld site. The partnership would create a separate subsidiary, China Nuclear Hua Sheng Mining, which would be authorized to transfer REEs, with uranium and thorium, to China for the necessary processing. The move prompted questions (in Danish) by the Greenland government’s main opposition party, Inuit Ataqatigiit (IA), as to the specifics of the new deal, possible environmental impacts of extracting uranium and thorium, and to what degree Chinese interests will participate in that process. It can commonly take up to several years before exploitation permission issues for large-scale mining projects in Greenland, not to mention many other potential technical and logistical hurdles before and during operations, can be resolved. Despite these obstacles, the question that remains is how further climate change in the Arctic, along with domestic politics in Greenland and the island’s evolving international relationships, such as with Denmark and the United States, will shape future Chinese mining investment on the island. The possibility of uranium mining in Greenland was first raised when the island’s parliament reversed a longstanding “zero tolerance” policy toward uranium extraction in 2013, clearing the way for the mining of REEs and uranium, (which co-exist at the Kvanefjeld site). That decision, however, touched off a prolonged legal battle between Copenhagen and Nuuk, which was ultimately resolved in early 2016, allowing the Kvanefjeld project to go forward. At the core of the dispute has been the political relationship between Denmark and Greenland, as the latter is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but with substantial political autonomy. The 2009 Self-Government Act, which specified the powers of the Greenland government, including over economic affairs, left Denmark with oversight of the island’s defense and foreign affairs. The issue of mining in Greenland, and notably Chinese investment in that sector, has led to deliberations over what does and does not constitute a security issue, as well as whether Chinese economic interests in Greenland may play a role in ongoing debates over future Greenlandic independence. Another example of Denmark’s “securitization” of Greenland economic issues was the controversy and political outcry last year over the possibility of Chinese investment in Greenland airport expansion projects, which also prompted intervention from Copenhagen to waylay the Chinese bid. In addition to the Kvanefjeld site, a Chinese firm is also part of a partnership with the Australian firm Ironbark for a zinc mining project at Citronen Fjord in Greenland’s far north, and a Hong Kong company currently owns the mining rights for an iron deposit at Isua. In the area of fossil fuels, two Chinese energy firms, China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) and China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC) expressed interest in bidding for onshore oil and gas blocks opening up for surveys in western Greenland in 2021. As a recent policy brief from the Danish Institute for International Studies explained, the expanded role of Greenland in China’s economic interests in the Arctic should prompt not only greater scrutiny from the governments of both Greenland and Denmark, but also discussions between the two governments about which types of foreign investment fall under what areas of the 2009 Self-Rule agreement. Climate change has made Greenland an emerging actor for foreign mining interests, and Chinese firms have wasted little time in putting themselves at the forefront of what could be a revolution in extractive industries on the island. The Kvanefjeld project may be the most visible example of China’s economic presence in Greenland, but far from the only one. The question is how Chinese mining investment in Greenland might spill over into the political and security debates surrounding Greenland’s political future. thediplomat.com/2019/02/china-steps-up-its-mining-interests-in-greenland/Edit These plans were not super secret..although they had stealth elements that did not go unnoticed by the Americans forcing them to invoke not only its perpetual treaty of April of 1941, prompting the Danes to call it an April fools Joke.. but earlier Monroe doctrine in full Earnest and latest policy of It Ain't Gonna Happen. The Joke is indeed on the Danes chinese lobbysists and beneficiaries which have, like most developing nations succumed the the concept of for a fist full of Dollars and to hell with the environment.
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Post by HAL on Aug 21, 2019 22:20:58 GMT
Trump did not decline an opportunity to meet the Danish prime Minister.
He canceled a State visit arranged at the request of the Queen of Denmark.
He's a prick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 0:12:49 GMT
Trump did not decline an opportunity to meet the Danish prime Minister. He canceled a State visit arranged at the request of the Queen of Denmark. He's a prick. A prick who gets results & Purrrrfect matchup for two whores who were selling the Greenlanders and their own country out to China...what else is new you can add? Its why it was so easy for Germans to occupy them in wwii..they are weak..and decadent..as the Windsors in UK who if they had their way rather than Churchil...you would be speaking German today. Even accused Henrick of Treason for the treaty on Greenland. They get no sympathy from me.
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Post by HAL on Aug 22, 2019 17:53:03 GMT
..you would be speaking German today.. Not that old trope again. I know you can do better. Maybe you can tell me, bearing in mind Trump's record as a business man, i.e, doesn't like paying his bills, has many failed ventures, believes in debt, doesn't believe in paying taxes (how does he expect to pay for his grandiose ideas ?; ah yes, more debt)lies to the World on a daily basis: the list goes on. So why do you guys still expect there to be a good outcome from his presidency ? Have you looked at the usdebtclock recently ? The only people making a profit appear to be the Fed shareholders. I don't think Denmark will be selling Greenland to anyone in the near future. As for needing Greenland as an early warning site for anti-missile detection, how many more does he need ? there is one only three mile from where I live. Is he expecting his disgruntles creditors to come calling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 16:10:52 GMT
Maybe you can tell me, bearing in mind Trump's record as a business man, i.e, doesn't like paying his bills, has many failed ventures, believes in debt, doesn't believe in paying taxes (how does he expect to pay for his grandiose ideas ?; ah yes, more debt)lies to the World on a daily basis: the list goes on.That's something you should be looking at from your own slimy leader(s) who failed to take him down using the GCHQ and MI6. His bankruptcy(s) well known..I don't know of any billionaires got rich being saints and last I heard..Bankruptcy filing is legal.... as an adult..I assumed you knew this by now..He won..You didn't vote here..so the peanut gallery commentary across the Atlantic..is worthless..for sure my wallet certainly is the better for it....I can't wait for another four years.. Anything else?
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Post by swamprat on Aug 28, 2019 17:23:02 GMT
He also has many successful ventures and so far has donated his presidential salary to others.
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