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Post by HAL on Jan 27, 2020 20:47:51 GMT
Sorry Gus, You can only see records of it. But which records do you choose to believe ? HAL The word believe is a loaded question for you Hal Got to admit I don't like it at all. However, it is the only single word I can think of that covers 'In light of the evidence, and persuant to my consideration,this is the most likely true explanation; subject of course, to revision following the presentation of updated evidence'. HAL
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Post by swamprat on Jan 28, 2020 2:56:17 GMT
Podward State Interviews: Astrophysics Professor Dr. Jason Wright By Matt Paolizzi
1/27/20
Podward State met with Jason Wright, Penn State professor of astrophysics, to discuss his research on the discovery of exoplanets, planets of other stars.
Wright is also a major player in the global search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Known as SETI, it’s a been a growing field for decades, and Wright is at the forefront. He’s published multiple papers on the topic, was the recipient of the 2019 Drake Award from the SETI Institute, and was recently profiled in a piece from The New Yorker on new methods of looking for alien civilizations.
Wright discussed Dyson spheres, hypothetical superstructures that can dim the light from distant stars. This off-and-on dimming can be noticed fairly easily by astronomers and one star in particular, Tabby’s Star, caused a media sensation when it was revealed that a Dyson Sphere was perhaps the culprit behind its light oscillation.
First described in sci-fi novels, but later made scientifically possible by physicist Freeman Dyson, a Dyson sphere is a theoretical machine that can be built around a star to harness almost all of its energy output. The confirmation of such advanced technology would all but guarantee the possible existence of another intelligent race in the Milky Way.
While it was later revealed that a thick cloud of cosmic dust was almost certainly the cause of the star’s dimming, this still brought the possibility of such a machine into popular consciousness and helped further drum up the thought of extraterrestrial intelligence in the public eye. Wright helped with the analysis of the Tabby’s Star phenomenon, publishing his own work on it as well as assisting with the original discoverers of the star.
While Wright’s research hasn’t allowed him to search for Dyson Spheres specifically, it’s a field he’d like to explore.
“We’ve barely looked (for Dyson spheres). It’s not something that often gets a lot of support, and I would love to get back to looking for them,” he said.
While not seen as an international space research leader like MIT or California Institute of Technology, Penn State certainly has some noteworthy contributions. Penn State engineers, for example, assisted with the development of the NASA Dragonfly probe, which is set to reach Saturn’s moon Titan in 2034.
Another space-focused program in development at Penn State is the Penn State Extraterrestrial Intelligence Center. Wright is currently spearheading the project, and serves on its advisory board alongside Penn State President Eric Barron and esteemed astrophysicists like Francis Drake and Dr. Dyson.
The growing relevance of Penn State in the field of astrophysics and astronomy is something that Wright feels proud of, especially with the announcement of PSETI. The opening of this center will provide opportunities for students when it comes to searching for extraterrestrial life and educating the next generation of space pioneers.
The first evidence of other advanced civilizations in the universe might be made by a Nittany Lion.
“Looking five or ten years down the road, I’m really excited that the PSETI center is getting founded because it means that I’ll actually be able to train and advise students and maybe even hire some postdoctoral researchers to get more SETI research done at Penn State,” Wright said.
“And of course, you have to keep your eyes on the prize. We might find something.”
onwardstate.com/2020/01/27/podward-state-interviews-astrophysics-professor-dr-jason-wright/
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Post by gus on Jan 28, 2020 7:07:23 GMT
The word believe is a loaded question for you Hal Got to admit I don't like it at all. However, it is the only single word I can think of that covers 'In light of the evidence, and persuant to my consideration,this is the most likely true explanation; subject of course, to revision following the presentation of updated evidence'. HAL Did you watch this? vimeo.com/346567550Because this happened. Some evidence for you to chew on, tell me what you think.
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Post by swamprat on Jan 28, 2020 15:27:35 GMT
The International Space Station is getting a commercial module By Mike Wall | 28 January 2020
Axiom Space will provide at least one habitable module to help spur commercial activity in orbit.
The International Space Station. (Image: © NASA)
The International Space Station (ISS) is taking a big step toward increased commercial use.
NASA has picked Houston-based company Axiom Space to build at least one habitable private module that will be attached to the orbiting lab, the space agency announced Monday (Jan. 27).
NASA hopes the Axiom module helps spur the growth of an off-Earth economy, one that eventually extends far beyond the ISS in both time and space.
"Axiom's work to develop a commercial destination in space is a critical step for NASA to meet its long-term needs for astronaut training, scientific research and technology demonstrations in low-Earth orbit,” NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said in a statement.
"We are transforming the way NASA works with industry to benefit the global economy and advance space exploration," he added. "It is a similar partnership that this year will return the capability of American astronauts to launch to the space station on American rockets from American soil."
Bridenstine was referring in that last sentence to NASA's Commercial Crew Program, which has funded the development of two private crew capsules, SpaceX's Crew Dragon and Boeing's CST-100 Starliner. The agency is counting on these homegrown astronaut taxis to end American reliance on Russian Soyuz rockets and spacecraft to get folks to and from the ISS.
Bridenstine has stressed that NASA wants to be just one of many customers for Starliner and Crew Dragon. The agency's vision is similar for these vehicles' destinations: If all goes according to plan, a variety of private companies, university groups and other customers will take advantage of the ISS and other outposts that eventually set up shop in Earth orbit.
These other outposts are key, for the ISS won't last forever. Indeed, the station is currently funded only through 2024 (though operations could end up being extended through 2028, or perhaps even later). Axiom aims to build and operate its own space station in the near future, as do several other companies, including Las Vegas-based Bigelow Aerospace.
Bigelow already has some hardware attached to the ISS — the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module (BEAM), which arrived at the orbiting lab in April 2016 to validate the company's expandable habitat technology for crewed in-space use. BEAM has performed very well during its nearly four years in orbit, NASA officials have said, and the agency plans to keep it on the station (and use it for storage) through the late 2020s.
The Axiom module will be affixed to the ISS' Node 2 forward port, NASA officials said. The main goal is to demonstrate the module's commercial potential and aid the transition toward greater private use of the orbiting lab — a key agency priority — and the final frontier in general.
Axiom's winning proposal was submitted in response to a call via Appendix I of NASA's Next Space Technologies for Exploration Partnerships (NextSTEP) 2 Broad Agency Announcement, which offered companies the use of ISS utilities and a port.
"NASA and Axiom next will begin negotiations on the terms and price of a firm-fixed-price contract with a five-year base performance period and a two-year option," NASA officials wrote in the same statement.
"Because commercial destinations are considered a key element of a robust economy in low-Earth orbit, NASA also plans to issue a final opportunity to partner with the agency in the development of a free-flying, independent commercial destination," they added. "Through these combined efforts to develop commercial destinations, NASA is set to meet its long-term needs in low-Earth orbit well beyond the life of the station."
www.space.com/nasa-axiom-commercial-space-station-module.html
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Post by gus on Jan 29, 2020 9:09:28 GMT
Holy Shit I have found a time line to full ET contact. "100 years of interaction" was mentioned, so when did the Greys start doing the Hybrid program? WW2 was when we saw foo fighters in 1939. Cordell Hull saw Aliens in Glass Containers might be the earliest. Does anyone know an earlier contact than this?
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Post by HAL on Jan 29, 2020 21:24:57 GMT
Gus,
I'm getting 'sorry, the player is not working, we're working on it'.
Or something very similar.
I'll try again later.
HAL.
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 30, 2020 0:16:00 GMT
Two satellites set for close shave over US city of PittsburghTwo satellites hurtling across the sky at nearly 33,000 mph (53,000 km/h) are predicted to pass dangerously close to one another over Pennsylvania. A group tracking the satellites said it predicted a 1 in 20 chance of a collision, calling it "alarming". The satellites are not in operation, but it is feared a collision could create pieces of debris that would damage other objects in orbit. The last time a major satellite collision occurred was in 2009. The satellites may pass within 40ft (12m) of each other, some 550 miles (900km) above Pittsburgh at around 18:30 local time. LeoLabs, a group that tracks space debris, reported that "it is still unlikely that these objects will collide", but that due to the size of the satellites, the chance of collision had gone up from prior calculations. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51299638
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Post by thelmadonna on Jan 30, 2020 0:59:55 GMT
I reckon Elijah is a good contender. He's pretty early. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+2-8&version=NIV2 Kings 2-8 New International Version (NIV) Elijah Taken Up to Heaven 2 When the Lord was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal. 2 Elijah said to Elisha, “Stay here; the Lord has sent me to Bethel.” But Elisha said, “As surely as the Lord lives and as you live, I will not leave you.” So they went down to Bethel. 3 The company of the prophets at Bethel came out to Elisha and asked, “Do you know that the Lord is going to take your master from you today?” “Yes, I know,” Elisha replied, “so be quiet.” 4 Then Elijah said to him, “Stay here, Elisha; the Lord has sent me to Jericho.” And he replied, “As surely as the Lord lives and as you live, I will not leave you.” So they went to Jericho. 5 The company of the prophets at Jericho went up to Elisha and asked him, “Do you know that the Lord is going to take your master from you today?” “Yes, I know,” he replied, “so be quiet.” 6 Then Elijah said to him, “Stay here; the Lord has sent me to the Jordan.” And he replied, “As surely as the Lord lives and as you live, I will not leave you.” So the two of them walked on. 7 Fifty men from the company of the prophets went and stood at a distance, facing the place where Elijah and Elisha had stopped at the Jordan. 8 Elijah took his cloak, rolled it up and struck the water with it. The water divided to the right and to the left, and the two of them crossed over on dry ground. 9 When they had crossed, Elijah said to Elisha, “Tell me, what can I do for you before I am taken from you?” “Let me inherit a double portion of your spirit,” Elisha replied. 10 “You have asked a difficult thing,” Elijah said, “yet if you see me when I am taken from you, it will be yours—otherwise, it will not.” 11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And Elisha saw him no more. Then he took hold of his garment and tore it in two. 13 Elisha then picked up Elijah’s cloak that had fallen from him and went back and stood on the bank of the Jordan. 14 He took the cloak that had fallen from Elijah and struck the water with it. “Where now is the Lord, the God of Elijah?” he asked. When he struck the water, it divided to the right and to the left, and he crossed over. 15 The company of the prophets from Jericho, who were watching, said, “The spirit of Elijah is resting on Elisha.” And they went to meet him and bowed to the ground before him. 16 “Look,” they said, “we your servants have fifty able men. Let them go and look for your master. Perhaps the Spirit of the Lord has picked him up and set him down on some mountain or in some valley.”
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Post by gus on Jan 30, 2020 3:50:02 GMT
Im thinking more 1900s onwards
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Post by swamprat on Feb 3, 2020 15:59:24 GMT
When did the universe 'wake up'? By Paul Sutter | 3 February 2020
Distant, ancient galaxies could help scientists understand how the universe turned back into plasma. (Image: © NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center)
It was a big moment for our cosmos when the first stars awoke, but it's an elusive one for scientists.
In new research, however, a team of astronomers has identified some of the oldest galaxies ever seen. These objects were already fully formed when the universe was just 680 million years old, according to the scientists, who also found evidence that these galaxies were flooding their surroundings with extreme ultraviolet radiation.
That flood formed gigantic bubbles, where the neutral gas became energized and ionized, offering astronomers the first direct image of a major transformational epoch in our universe.
Before the dawn
A long time ago, there wasn't a single star shining across the universe. In the early days of our cosmos, everything was pretty uniform: just about the same average density from place to place. A bit boring, really.
It was also depressingly neutral, quite a change from the first days of the universe. Even earlier, in the first few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang, our universe was so dang hot and dense that it was plasma; the constant cheek-to-jowl jostling had ripped apart atoms into their constituent electrons and nuclei.
But all that chaos ended when the universe turned a ripe old 380,000 years old. That's when things were spread out enough, and the temperatures were low enough, for the electrons to combine with their nuclear families and form the first atoms of hydrogen and helium. With that event came the release of a tremendous amount of radiation that we still know and love today: the cosmic microwave background.
For millions of years, the universe hung around in this state of quiet neutrality. But as the universe expanded and cooled, tiny seeds began to form; patches of that gas were, by random chance, slightly denser than their surroundings. That minuscule enhancement gave them a tiny gravitational edge, drawing material from their neighborhood onto them. Because they had grown, they had an even greater gravitational influence, pulling more material onto them, and so on.
Bit by bit, over eons, the first stars and galaxies grew in the silent, dark, neutral universe.
The cosmic dawn awakens
We don't know exactly when the first stars formed, but we know that when they did, they did so in a big, fantastic way. That's because the universe isn't neutral anymore — it's ionized.
Most of the material that you interact with daily is made of complete atoms; all of the nuclei are dutifully surrounded by shells of electrons, whizzing about and combining with each other in the wonderful, complicated dance that we call chemistry.
But this situation is unique. By far, the vast majority of matter in the universe today is a plasma, the same state it was in long, long ago, electrons and nuclei free to live their separate lives. The sun? Plasma. Other stars? Plasma. Nebulae? Plasma. The stuff between all the stars and nebulae? Plasma.
When our universe was 380,000 years old, it transformed from plasma into a neutral gas. Today, over 13 billion years later, it's mostly plasma again. Something must have happened; something must have ripped apart all those atoms in the universe. And considering that we observe the universe to be plasma as far back as we can look, to some of the first stars and galaxies to appear on the cosmic stage, whatever caused this "reionization" must have happened pretty early on.
Astronomers think the extreme ultraviolet radiation pumped out by the first generation of stars (and their deaths as supernova explosions) turned our universe back into plasma. But, frustratingly, we don't know exactly when. Even our most powerful telescopes and deepest surveys don't have the ability (yet) to peer back that far into the universe. We can clearly see the cosmic microwave background, and we can clearly see the universe as it is today, but the middle bits are currently a cosmological mystery.
We don't know when the first stars appeared — an event astronomers dub the "cosmic dawn" — and we don't know when the ensuing "epoch of reionization" began.
Blowing bubbles
But that situation is beginning to change. The hunt is on for older and older galaxies, along with surveys of the gas in their surroundings, as we try to get a handle on this important pubescent phase in the growth and evolution of our universe. Recently, an international team of researchers found three galaxies that are extremely faint, incredibly small and mind-bogglingly distant.
These diminutive galaxies were already fully formed and operating when our universe was just 680 million years old. That isn't surprising — we've found galaxies that old before — but in this study, the researchers added a new wrinkle: By examining the radiation emanating from the environment near the trio, they discovered that the galaxies had already begun to blow bubbles of ionized plasma into their surroundings.
In other words, the radiation pumping out of the galaxies had already begun to transform the universe around them, like the pimples on the forehead of a teenager. This is the first clear sign of the epoch of reionization in progress. And while astronomers had deduced that the universe had finished reionizing by the time it hit its first billionth birthday, nobody suspected that it could happen this early.
These galaxies make excellent targets for the upcoming James Webb Space Telescope, which is specifically designed to study this era of our cosmic history. If the result holds up and more examples of reionization are found, we might finally be able to understand this transformative epoch from our universe's ancient, violent past.
The research is described in a paper posted to the preprint server arXiv.org on Jan. 7.
Paul M. Sutter is an astrophysicist at Stony Brook University and the Flatiron Institute, host of Ask a Spaceman and "Space Radio," and author of "Your Place in the Universe." Sutter contributed this article to Space.com's Expert Voices: Op-Ed & Insights.
www.space.com/when-did-the-universe-wake-up.html
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Post by gus on Feb 4, 2020 10:30:44 GMT
650 million years old galaxy! and we are still trying to get to Mars in a rocket ship. I'm now deeply concerned about where this is all going. 1 Catastrophic climate change. Imagine seriously crazy stuff, imagine climate change in the worst case scenario. I say this because I have been looking at the science and how this is being communicated to the public. Scientists only talk about the medium as away to not be alarmist. They say at the very least this could happen, the next stage up which is the medium of the climate change studies is worse. What I find terrifying is the lack of communication on what worse looks like. After seeing the fires in Australia I believe we are on track for worst case scenario from the climate change studies. So take that on board at the moment there is no current solution to the climate change issue. 2 Due to numerous Abductees stating that at some point some sort of global event will occur, where people will be evacuated off Earth. I can't see the nations of Earth being happy about that. I could imagine the US Space Force being put into action with catastrophic results. Confusing the population to decide either to be saved by ET or go in a bunker for 50 years. See below video: I take this Randy Cramer with a massive grain of salt but there is a base on the Moon and on Mars but i'm not sure they are ETs or Earths. More on randy here www.gaia.com/article/randy-cramer-mars-defense-force
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Post by HAL on Feb 4, 2020 20:51:00 GMT
Guy's a nut.
No kind way of saying it.
Every night thousands of people point quite powerful telescopes at both Mars and the Moon and they do occasionally report some strange things. But nothing that matches the kind of Sci Fi fantasies described.
SO what is the real game ?
A steady income from YouTube channels and other monetizing schemes ?
HAL.
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Post by gus on Feb 4, 2020 21:54:45 GMT
Guy's a nut. No kind way of saying it. Every night thousands of people point quite powerful telescopes at both Mars and the Moon and they do occasionally report some strange things. But nothing that matches the kind of Sci Fi fantasies described. SO what is the real game ? A steady income from YouTube channels and other monetizing schemes ? HAL. I think so
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Post by thelmadonna on Feb 4, 2020 22:20:06 GMT
Guy's a nut. No kind way of saying it. Every night thousands of people point quite powerful telescopes at both Mars and the Moon and they do occasionally report some strange things. But nothing that matches the kind of Sci Fi fantasies described. SO what is the real game ? A steady income from YouTube channels and other monetizing schemes ? HAL. I think so Couldn't help yourselves. Try reading your PMs
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Post by nyx on Feb 5, 2020 2:48:45 GMT
Tonight’s Trump’s State of the Union Address, Trump emphasized the Space Force.
While the applause cut off his final comment on the Space Force, some feel like his last words were to the effect “very mysterious”.
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