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Post by chillstar on Feb 2, 2024 1:59:00 GMT
UFO Expert Drops Truth Bomb: "There May Be Hidden Dimensions!" This is kind of like what has been happening on skinwalker ranch. ( Reference here) A lot of weird stuff has been going on there.
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Post by LJ on Feb 4, 2024 11:02:09 GMT
I am believing that it is surely possible that there may be beings from another dimension or universe capable of travelling "interuniversal".
The only thing that is bothering me with that idea is, that it downplays or even denies the existance of "classic" extraterrestrials, no matter if they are timetravelling or not. It makes people think that ALL aliens are from another universe, which in turn seems highly unlikely to me. The fact that people see UFOs appearing and disappearing into thin air, which is often cited as an indication for their extradimensional existance seems not plausible. Highly evolved tech from extraterrestrials in action should be able to produce similar or same results WITHIN our universe. The origins of aliens and their spacecraft is probably quiet diverse, more than theories (extradimensional, extraterrestrial, timetravellers) are suggesting up to this point of time.
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Post by chillstar on Feb 5, 2024 1:01:20 GMT
It could be both. Or even something that we have not thought of so far. We don't have a complete picture of the universe just yet. There is much more out there, and here, to discover and get answers to. Such as dark matter. And dark energy. It is going to take some more time to find out no doubt. We'll just have to wait. The answers will come.
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Post by HAL on Feb 6, 2024 20:51:20 GMT
I am believing that it is surely possible that there may be beings from another dimension or universe capable of travelling "interuniversal". The only thing that is bothering me with that idea is, that it downplays or even denies the existance of "classic" extraterrestrials, no matter if they are timetravelling or not. It makes people think that ALL aliens are from another universe, which in turn seems highly unlikely to me. The fact that people see UFOs appearing and disappearing into thin air, which is often cited as an indication for their extradimensional existance seems not plausible.Highly evolved tech from extraterrestrials in action should be able to produce similar or same results WITHIN our universe. The origins of aliens and their spacecraft is probably quiet diverse, more than theories (extradimensional, extraterrestrial, timetravellers) are suggesting up to this point of time. On the contrary, I would say it could support the extra-dimensional hypothesis.
The object is there one moment, then it is gone.
It had to go somewhere.
Where would you say it went ?
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Post by chillstar on Feb 6, 2024 22:16:19 GMT
Albert Einstein was tinkering with the idea that there may be 10 or even more dimensions. Our brains may not be equipped to picture 10 spatial dimensions but see if you can get to at least four (here).
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Post by HAL on Feb 9, 2024 12:10:12 GMT
I also do not consider Time to be a dimension. Time just 'is'.
Working on the analogy of the radio spectrum. I could (hypothetically) see how there may be other dimensions.
No way that I could demonstrate that though.
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Post by chillstar on Feb 9, 2024 17:01:15 GMT
Defining time is difficult. Even for the greatest of minds.
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Post by LJ on Feb 10, 2024 19:12:04 GMT
Hello, thx chillstar and HAL for your input,
first i want to express, that i think that the origin of alien life, perceivably for us and showing up here on earth, is, and has to be, and totally independend from the theory one tries to establish, highly speculative. HAL, you mentioned the question of where an object may have went. I would say, that the phenomenon of objects being observed, showing up or disappear instantly and inexplicably, does not necessarily imply that it went to another dimension. It could easily be origintaing from many kinds of imaginable, classic Physics, there is absolutely no interdimensionality needed to account for that kind of observation. For example, an object hovering in front of you, you see it, then in an instant it disappears.
That subjective observation, limited by human (yours and ours) perception abilities, could be originating from a crazy rate of "classic" acceleration, or it also could be a result of an activation of a well working cloaking device; or maybe even your (our) own biological senses, unperceivably for you or us, may have been intentionally manipulated from the outside (from those beings, highly evolved, and with capablities and motives absolutely unknown for us), in order to make you believe you saw this or that, just as they like you to.
So, i am not denying the possibility of interdimensional beings, as we understand it, but i am not favouring that idea over any other idea of the origin of alien life, which, for some reason, shows up here, and is perceivalble for us here from time to time at least...
Greetings
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Post by LJ on Feb 10, 2024 19:32:37 GMT
P.S.: i don´t want to appear overly destructive, but i think that it has to be mentioned, that the idea of interdimensional beings is surely NOT a contemporary insight ("truth bomb"....), but already has been an idea of certain parts of ufology for decades since now, so i do NOT like the suggestion of revolutionary truth bombs being "sold" recently
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Post by LJ on Feb 10, 2024 22:47:39 GMT
*originating
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Post by HAL on Feb 10, 2024 23:21:37 GMT
And greetings to you, LJ,
And, of course, you may be correct.
Now all you have to do is elaborate on the kind of physics that would make this instant appearance and disappearance happen.
Your example..
.For example, an object hovering in front of you, you see it, then in an instant it disappears...
If a solid object is occupying a region of space in front of you. And it just 'isn't there' an instant later, then the atmosphere will very rapidly fill the space it occupied. You would hear the 'bang' as this happened. (Implosion of air filling the vacuum created). That would be good data. But I don't recall reading of that yet.
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Post by LJ on Feb 10, 2024 23:52:02 GMT
Hey, i absolutely get your point, but as you already mentioned, there is no scientifical and available and reliable measuring data accessible to us. But i think in general, that the VERY fast movements, regularily observed on those probably extraterrestrial crafts, to my knowledge, almost never cause any classic, to be expected physical results ( like supersonic booms while travelling fast, or the possible consequence you mentioned when instantly leaving its previous position, although those things should be heard, following classic physical understanding, they are not heard). I think we are mixing up things that do not necessarily have to be mixed up; That means our classical newtonlike understanding of physics and the results which can be obeserved on those UAPs operating. The fact alone that those UFOs travel by a mean unknown to us means that it shouldn´t come as a surprise that those engines do NOT produce results we would expect them to produce, as we are stupid naked apes ;D , and that should not come as a surprise, so i am not too confused when i hear that no sonic booms are heard here or there while an UAP sighting takes place...
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Post by HAL on Feb 11, 2024 0:00:48 GMT
I do get your point that there are probably levels of physics that we have not yet discovered or do not understand fully. I have always said that.
Possibly inter dimentionality will turn out to be one of them.
I do not agree that we are stupid naked apes. (did you know that the guy who wrote 'The Naked Ape' is also a successful Surrealist artist ?)I tend to think that we are quite highly developed entities from a branch of the apes. But we also left Newtonian Physics behind a long time ago. They work well for mundane things. But not for higher science.
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Post by LJ on Feb 11, 2024 0:06:42 GMT
P.S.: i think with a bit of motivation, there even is such data available. Hessdalen Project, for example. And besides those well known Projects Bluebook and Grudge, there are quiet a few other projects whic h were carried out, by US and Canadian parties( i am not able to instantly citate those projects atm, but they wrre there), but that was a long time ago, but those projects also produced results, which are nowadays only hardly available. I mean radar data, combined with optical, and magnetical and i think microwave-measurings also, made at the same time. So there already is data saying those things are there, moving very fast, sometimes visible, sometimes not, and we have no clue how or why...
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Post by LJ on Feb 11, 2024 0:23:46 GMT
"I tend to think that we are quite highly developed entities from a branch of the apes" That maybe true, but that only means we are the kings of the animals; and that also carries a hierarchy i don´t like ( i love animals, they are equivalent to us, only different in some branches).... The thing is, we are evidently too stupid to be able to interprete the reasons and motives of those aliens being here, or succesfully carry out successful profane speculations like why a UFO does not reproduce a sonic boom here or there... Apes wondering what happens around them. Gorillas in the Mist. But i do not want to be destructeviley negative. I only try keep it realistic... Greets
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